Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:03am Thu 9 Oct 08
I wish Bill Fraser, and The "Save Pollok Park" Campaign every success in their bid to prevent this abuse ofcouncil power,completely ignoring the public wishes, those of the National Trust, and most importantly the Maxwell Family - who gifted Pollok Park to the People of Glasgow.
[bold]"GO APE" IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PRIVATE, PROFIT DRIVEN ORGANISATION, WHO HAVE LITTLE INTEREST IN ENSURING POLLOK PARK IS MAINTAINED FOR THE PEOPLE OF GLASGOW, AND MORE INTEREST IN TAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN GET FROM US TAX PAYERS.[/bold]
It's just sad that some of our busy working people, with family commitments (etc) want to be more involved with Community councils, Campaign groups, meetings etc - they can only give up as much time as it allows.
I'm just glad to be able to attend meetings accross the city, to see the different ways in which other groups have overcome the barriers which Glasgow City Council have placed in front of them:
1. Its planning Process is far from accessable, friendly, nor is it easy for all to object against plans.
2. Minimal & statutory consultation periods need to be extended far more where the level of public objections are proven to be far higher.
3. And, finally - it should not be the interests and aims of Glasgow City Council which is so high on the agenda, and so obviously pushed through the media.
[bold]The Publics wishes, views and feelings must be far better represented, listened to and acknowledged, by the planning department,
as well as in the media's coverage of contentious issues such as this ridiculous "Go Ape!" proposal.[/bold]
And as the council website stated:
[italic]"Britain's and Europe's Best Park Awards Pollok Country Park has been voted the Best Park in Britain 2007, and Europe's Best Park 2008.
This adds to a clutch of accolades the City’s parks have already attracted including the Botanic Gardens winning best park, in Scotland in 2006, and Auchinlea the Scottish Best Park Award in 2005."[/italic]
So, with so many awards surely the City council cannot still want to add to it ?
As the saying goes [italic]"If Its Not Broken, Don't Fix It!"[/italic]
I wish Bill Fraser, and The "Save Pollok Park" Campaign every success in their bid to prevent this abuse ofcouncil power,completely ignoring the public wishes, those of the National Trust, and most importantly the Maxwell Family - who gifted Pollok Park to the People of Glasgow.
"GO APE" IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PRIVATE, PROFIT DRIVEN ORGANISATION, WHO HAVE LITTLE INTEREST IN ENSURING POLLOK PARK IS MAINTAINED FOR THE PEOPLE OF GLASGOW, AND MORE INTEREST IN TAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN GET FROM US TAX PAYERS.
It's just sad that some of our busy working people, with family commitments (etc) want to be more involved with Community councils, Campaign groups, meetings etc - they can only give up as much time as it allows.
I'm just glad to be able to attend meetings accross the city, to see the different ways in which other groups have overcome the barriers which Glasgow City Council have placed in front of them:
1. Its planning Process is far from accessable, friendly, nor is it easy for all to object against plans.
2. Minimal & statutory consultation periods need to be extended far more where the level of public objections are proven to be far higher.
3. And, finally - it should not be the interests and aims of Glasgow City Council which is so high on the agenda, and so obviously pushed through the media.
The Publics wishes, views and feelings must be far better represented, listened to and acknowledged, by the planning department,
as well as in the media's coverage of contentious issues such as this ridiculous "Go Ape!" proposal.
And as the council website stated:
"Britain's and Europe's Best Park Awards Pollok Country Park has been voted the Best Park in Britain 2007, and Europe's Best Park 2008.
This adds to a clutch of accolades the City’s parks have already attracted including the Botanic Gardens winning best park, in Scotland in 2006, and Auchinlea the Scottish Best Park Award in 2005."
So, with so many awards surely the City council cannot still want to add to it ?
As the saying goes
"If Its Not Broken, Don't Fix It!"
Posted by: Brad on 11:09am Thu 9 Oct 08
Well, good luck to them but I don't fancy their chances...
Well, good luck to them but I don't fancy their chances...
Posted by: mickus, Glasgow on 11:47am Thu 9 Oct 08
'save pollock park' for who?
surley this will encorage more people to use the park.
can you not use the park if there's an adventure playground within it?
'save pollock park' for who?
surley this will encorage more people to use the park.
can you not use the park if there's an adventure playground within it?
Posted by: paulthescot, Oman on 12:33pm Thu 9 Oct 08
If they are not destroying anything. What is the problem. This Go Ape sounds exciting for the kids. We are always making reference that there is nothing for the kids. Here is something that will entice them to be active and play.
Why would anyone want to be against kids having fun and being out playing in the fresh air. I hope that the Go Ape plan goes ahead.
Remember the Maxwell family gave this site to the people of Glasgow and that includes the kids.
Glasgow can only benifit from schemes like this.
If they are not destroying anything. What is the problem. This Go Ape sounds exciting for the kids. We are always making reference that there is nothing for the kids. Here is something that will entice them to be active and play.
Why would anyone want to be against kids having fun and being out playing in the fresh air. I hope that the Go Ape plan goes ahead.
Remember the Maxwell family gave this site to the people of Glasgow and that includes the kids.
Glasgow can only benifit from schemes like this.
Posted by: Lonely Scot, Kuwait on 12:56pm Thu 9 Oct 08
I went to the other go-ape place and it was great and would recommend it to most. Getting kids to play outside these days is hard enough, but this also gives an element of exercise and fun! There was no obvious damage done to the surrounding area and didnt look out of place.
My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?!
I think I might be sitting on the fence for this one!!!
I went to the other go-ape place and it was great and would recommend it to most. Getting kids to play outside these days is hard enough, but this also gives an element of exercise and fun! There was no obvious damage done to the surrounding area and didnt look out of place.
My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?!
I think I might be sitting on the fence for this one!!!
Posted by: HGlasgwegian, Glasgow on 2:31pm Thu 9 Oct 08
The other Go Ape Place is in Aberfoyle, a more appropriate location than a city park.
For those who do not know, Pollok Park already attracts 2 million visitors per year and won the award as Britain’s best park last year. So the argument that Go Ape is required to attract more visitors is a bit spurious in my view. It is an extremely successful park as it is and it is the juxtaposition of the North Wood with the Burrell Collection and Pollok House that makes it unique.
But the underlying issue here is the fury against a high handed and unresponsive council which has completely ignored legitimate concerns and treated those raising concerns with utter contempt. That is no way to treat voters (and taxpayers).
The other Go Ape Place is in Aberfoyle, a more appropriate location than a city park.
For those who do not know, Pollok Park already attracts 2 million visitors per year and won the award as Britain’s best park last year. So the argument that Go Ape is required to attract more visitors is a bit spurious in my view. It is an extremely successful park as it is and it is the juxtaposition of the North Wood with the Burrell Collection and Pollok House that makes it unique.
But the underlying issue here is the fury against a high handed and unresponsive council which has completely ignored legitimate concerns and treated those raising concerns with utter contempt. That is no way to treat voters (and taxpayers).
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:07pm Thu 9 Oct 08
who can afford the prices the go ape charge....now if anything is gifted to the people of glasgow any one can just take it off them? seems like a wee bit of mafia ism,....(gie us the keys of yer car, we need it for the weans)...paul do they have go ape in oman? ha ha.
who can afford the prices the go ape charge....now if anything is gifted to the people of glasgow any one can just take it off them? seems like a wee bit of mafia ism,....(gie us the keys of yer car, we need it for the weans)...paul do they have go ape in oman? ha ha.
Posted by: cee, Glasgow on 4:37pm Thu 9 Oct 08
I think Go Ape will be great in Pollok Park - after all - these nutters who are jumping up and down with plakards trying to spoil the enjoyment and experience for those who may not get other similar opportunities are always jumping up and down with plakards against something or another.
They are militant professional objectors to anything that involves change - they were even prepared to put people's lives at risk by creating hysteria to teh extent that some individuals decided to cut the wires at Aberfoyle a few weeks ago.....
I certainly don't want to be associated with any group that prevokes such actions
I think Go Ape will be great in Pollok Park - after all - these nutters who are jumping up and down with plakards trying to spoil the enjoyment and experience for those who may not get other similar opportunities are always jumping up and down with plakards against something or another.
They are militant professional objectors to anything that involves change - they were even prepared to put people's lives at risk by creating hysteria to teh extent that some individuals decided to cut the wires at Aberfoyle a few weeks ago.....
I certainly don't want to be associated with any group that prevokes such actions
Posted by: Brad on 5:06pm Thu 9 Oct 08
I don't think you can blame SPP for the wire-cutting, cee. Some people are just bams who will use any (spurious) justification they can.
I don't think you can blame SPP for the wire-cutting, cee. Some people are just bams who will use any (spurious) justification they can.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:44pm Thu 9 Oct 08
The vandalisation as mentioned at the Aberfoyle site just happened to be during the [bold]"Save Pollok Park"[/bold] Campaign against [bold]"Go Ape!"[/bold] - that means little or nothing, in terms of who did it ? or why ?
The vandalism, in fact could even of been an inside job by [bold]"Go Ape"[/bold] to lessen the public opinion of the efforts The [bold]"Save Pollok Park"[/bold] Campaign are making to stop them building there.
Also, as lonely scot points out so well:
[quote]My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?!
quote]
That last point is a very valid one, and the location of this "Go Ape" combined with the costs charged for people to use it means it will not be all inclusive - but exclusive, elitist, and for those who have the highest salaries to afford to take their family / friends.
There are still many issues to be ironed out, and problems which neither the spineless MSP's of Holyrood, or Councillors at George Square wish to iron out, with their pathetic buck passing carry on.
"Go Ape" is not a hot potato - it is a serious issue / proposal which will ( like the M77 right through Pollok Park before it) inevitably change the face of Pollok Park forever. Serious questions need to be asked.
And, I stand by [bold]Bill Fraser[/bold] and those of the [bold]"Save Pollok Park"[/bold] movement in their Campaign.
Those who have any thoughts, concerns, or questions on this should do their utmost to attend the coming [bold]Public Meeting at Pollokshaws Burgh Hall, on Tuesday October 28th - 7:30pm.[/bold] No more sitting on the fence.
Lets see some real action, and reaction, and the right decision being made for the People Of Glasgow.
The vandalisation as mentioned at the Aberfoyle site just happened to be during the
"Save Pollok Park" Campaign against
"Go Ape!" - that means little or nothing, in terms of who did it ? or why ?
The vandalism, in fact could even of been an inside job by
"Go Ape" to lessen the public opinion of the efforts The
"Save Pollok Park" Campaign are making to stop them building there.
Also, as lonely scot points out so well:
My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?!
quote]
That last point is a very valid one, and the location of this "Go Ape" combined with the costs charged for people to use it means it will not be all inclusive - but exclusive, elitist, and for those who have the highest salaries to afford to take their family / friends.
There are still many issues to be ironed out, and problems which neither the spineless MSP's of Holyrood, or Councillors at George Square wish to iron out, with their pathetic buck passing carry on.
"Go Ape" is not a hot potato - it is a serious issue / proposal which will ( like the M77 right through Pollok Park before it) inevitably change the face of Pollok Park forever. Serious questions need to be asked.
And, I stand by
Bill Fraser and those of the
"Save Pollok Park" movement in their Campaign.
Those who have any thoughts, concerns, or questions on this should do their utmost to attend the coming
Public Meeting at Pollokshaws Burgh Hall, on Tuesday October 28th - 7:30pm. No more sitting on the fence.
Lets see some real action, and reaction, and the right decision being made for the People Of Glasgow.
Posted by: Luggie, Glasgow on 10:20pm Thu 9 Oct 08
People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it.
This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery.
This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity.
The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.
People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it.
This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery.
This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity.
The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 10:38pm Thu 9 Oct 08
[quote]People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else.[/quote]
Errr - exactly [bold]who[/bold] are the "People of Glasgow" who have voted for Go Ape????
[quote]This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile.[/quote]
So you have studied the relevant legal documents and in your expert opinion GCC are [bold]not[/bold] disregarding the conditions that have been clearly set down? In other words, both the Maxwell family and the NTS have "misinterpreted" what is in these documents but YOU have got it right???
Away you go you NUTTER and check your facts before spouting your tripe on here!!!!!
People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else.
Errr - exactly
who are the "People of Glasgow" who have voted for Go Ape????
This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile.
So you have studied the relevant legal documents and in your expert opinion GCC are
not disregarding the conditions that have been clearly set down? In other words, both the Maxwell family and the NTS have "misinterpreted" what is in these documents but YOU have got it right???
Away you go you NUTTER and check your facts before spouting your tripe on here!!!!!
Posted by: Luggie, Glasgow on 11:29pm Thu 9 Oct 08
Mulross, here we go again - disagree and you receive abuse. Anyway I'm no NUTTER but you may be and it is certainly tripe you're spouting and I have checked my facts. I wonder have you read the results of the consultation. Why did the so called People of pollok 'NOT RESPOND?'
The fact is that as with the rest of the campaign you people think you speak more for the people of Glasgow or that you know best about any of the issues.
Well you happen to be wrong according to both the GCC and the Scottish Exec. All things have been taken into consideration and the decision has been made and current Maxwell interpretations will just have to agree to disagree. But of course we've all seen this anti-GCC behaviour before of this sort.
The problem you have is that you didn't respond and its too late. People who don't respond ON TIME do not deserve any more consideration as they were disrespectful in their ignorance. let GCC do all the hard work maintaining the park and then decide a boycott, campaign or whatever you call it in your own time. TAKE A HIKE!! The people of Glasgow will not be asked to respond again because of you lot and shouldn't - democracy wins.
So spend all the money you want believing you can change democracy because you cant. You have no mandate and the silly 'public' meeting is just a NIMBY get-together of no importance whatsoever.
Mulross, here we go again - disagree and you receive abuse. Anyway I'm no NUTTER but you may be and it is certainly tripe you're spouting and I have checked my facts. I wonder have you read the results of the consultation. Why did the so called People of pollok 'NOT RESPOND?'
The fact is that as with the rest of the campaign you people think you speak more for the people of Glasgow or that you know best about any of the issues.
Well you happen to be wrong according to both the GCC and the Scottish Exec. All things have been taken into consideration and the decision has been made and current Maxwell interpretations will just have to agree to disagree. But of course we've all seen this anti-GCC behaviour before of this sort.
The problem you have is that you didn't respond and its too late. People who don't respond ON TIME do not deserve any more consideration as they were disrespectful in their ignorance. let GCC do all the hard work maintaining the park and then decide a boycott, campaign or whatever you call it in your own time. TAKE A HIKE!! The people of Glasgow will not be asked to respond again because of you lot and shouldn't - democracy wins.
So spend all the money you want believing you can change democracy because you cant. You have no mandate and the silly 'public' meeting is just a NIMBY get-together of no importance whatsoever.
Posted by: musemonkey, uk on 10:06am Fri 10 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Lonely Scot[/bold] wrote:
I went to the other go-ape place and it was great and would recommend it to most. Getting kids to play outside these days is hard enough, but this also gives an element of exercise and fun! There was no obvious damage done to the surrounding area and didnt look out of place. My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?! I think I might be sitting on the fence for this one!!![/quote] The damage you encountered at Aberfoyle was done by a group opposing Go Ape in Pollok. FFP was sprayed everywhere and Zipslides were cut. I guess if you launch a campaign full of false retoric some nutters wil always take extreme action.
Lonely Scot wrote:
I went to the other go-ape place and it was great and would recommend it to most. Getting kids to play outside these days is hard enough, but this also gives an element of exercise and fun! There was no obvious damage done to the surrounding area and didnt look out of place. My only concerns are that it can cost alot for a whole family. Also, part of the course had been vandilised when I was there and that was way out in Aberfoyle! so what security would be required for a city version and what effect would this have, i.e big ugly fences to stop people (probably drunk!) mucking about on it at night?! I think I might be sitting on the fence for this one!!!
The damage you encountered at Aberfoyle was done by a group opposing Go Ape in Pollok. FFP was sprayed everywhere and Zipslides were cut. I guess if you launch a campaign full of false retoric some nutters wil always take extreme action.
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 2:09pm Fri 10 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Luggie[/bold] wrote:
People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it.
This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery.
This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity.
The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.[/quote] I read somewhere that the National Trust for Scotland is totally against Go Ape in Pollok Park.
Also I think you will find that its not only people who live in the South-side who are against this proposal but city & country-wide.
I no longer live in Glasgow but im in the city everyday & I still use the park at least twice a week..
Enough of this beautiful park has been sacrificed ,its not a case of NIMBY its a case of & enough is enough.
Before they slashed the park up for the motorway you could stand in the park & not hear the traffic but now you are surrounded by a dull roar & Go Ape would intensify this not to mention the damage all these extra cars would cause to the park itself...
Luggie wrote:
People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it.
This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery.
This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity.
The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.
I read somewhere that the National Trust for Scotland is totally against Go Ape in Pollok Park.
Also I think you will find that its not only people who live in the South-side who are against this proposal but city & country-wide.
I no longer live in Glasgow but im in the city everyday & I still use the park at least twice a week..
Enough of this beautiful park has been sacrificed ,its not a case of NIMBY its a case of & enough is enough.
Before they slashed the park up for the motorway you could stand in the park & not hear the traffic but now you are surrounded by a dull roar & Go Ape would intensify this not to mention the damage all these extra cars would cause to the park itself...
Posted by: Luggie, Glasgow on 5:00pm Fri 10 Oct 08
[quote][bold]I hear your pain[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Luggie[/bold] wrote: People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it. This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery. This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity. The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.[/quote] I read somewhere that the National Trust for Scotland is totally against Go Ape in Pollok Park. Also I think you will find that its not only people who live in the South-side who are against this proposal but city & country-wide. I no longer live in Glasgow but im in the city everyday & I still use the park at least twice a week.. Enough of this beautiful park has been sacrificed ,its not a case of NIMBY its a case of & enough is enough. Before they slashed the park up for the motorway you could stand in the park & not hear the traffic but now you are surrounded by a dull roar & Go Ape would intensify this not to mention the damage all these extra cars would cause to the park itself... [/quote] How selfish - so the real issue is you don't want extra people coming to the park bcause it'll spoil the peace that GCC has provided you with all these years. Never mind the other noises you make when you visit the park.
I'll tell you this the so called 'damage' has been grossly over-exaggerated and will be less than any of the ususal bike riding and people talking that currently goes on. In fact its a small commotion that will be away from the routes people use. So this whole fuss is a NIMBY fiasco.
Let go of your past baggage of 'enough is enough' (motorway indeed) and let others in Glasgow (who pay for the upkeep of the park) use the park in a way agreed by them.
I hear your pain wrote:
Luggie wrote: People Power you do not speak for the people of Glasgow who have sufficiently voted for Go Ape and are not required to do anything else. I think your accusation that Go Ape did an 'inside job' is disgraceful and libellous, very much in line with the SPP campaign of mocking anyone who disagree with them. After all despite posters in shop windows, letters to local schools and the required posters the locals id not vote against it. This campaign is NIMBYism at its worst. However thankfully both the GCC and the Scottish Exec have endorsed it and it will go ahead. This latest argument is misinterpretation by selfishness and is futile. The 'public' meeting is just another NIMBY meeting but without the arranged setup of a video pointed at a councillor while being barraged and then put on You Tube as an exercise of mockery. This campaign has no dignity as the individuals involved have no respect for those who disagree and the temperament of it is very suspect. Sturgeon is not going to be there in a capacity as first minister and would be best served to avoid that ambiguity. The sooner Go Ape is built the better as these are the types of fences that people should be sitting on.
I read somewhere that the National Trust for Scotland is totally against Go Ape in Pollok Park. Also I think you will find that its not only people who live in the South-side who are against this proposal but city & country-wide. I no longer live in Glasgow but im in the city everyday & I still use the park at least twice a week.. Enough of this beautiful park has been sacrificed ,its not a case of NIMBY its a case of & enough is enough. Before they slashed the park up for the motorway you could stand in the park & not hear the traffic but now you are surrounded by a dull roar & Go Ape would intensify this not to mention the damage all these extra cars would cause to the park itself...
How selfish - so the real issue is you don't want extra people coming to the park bcause it'll spoil the peace that GCC has provided you with all these years. Never mind the other noises you make when you visit the park.
I'll tell you this the so called 'damage' has been grossly over-exaggerated and will be less than any of the ususal bike riding and people talking that currently goes on. In fact its a small commotion that will be away from the routes people use. So this whole fuss is a NIMBY fiasco.
Let go of your past baggage of 'enough is enough' (motorway indeed) and let others in Glasgow (who pay for the upkeep of the park) use the park in a way agreed by them.
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