Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:37am Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote]Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.[/quote]
Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as [italic]iconic[/italic] ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being [italic]exclusive[/italic] or [italic]executive[/italic] ?
I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design...
Or is it just lazy journalism?
Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.
Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as
iconic ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being
exclusive or
executive ?
I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design...
Or is it just lazy journalism?
Posted by: KB, Glasgow on 11:52am Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.[/quote] Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as [italic]iconic[/italic] ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being [italic]exclusive[/italic] or [italic]executive[/italic] ? I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design... Or is it just lazy journalism?[/quote] tee hee
When SMG announced a move from their grey Cowcaddens base, it was sold as "SMG to move from their [italic][bold]iconic[/bold][/italic] city centre location."
Dull journalism at its best.
Pete wrote:
Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.
Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as iconic ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being exclusive or executive ? I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design... Or is it just lazy journalism?
tee hee
When SMG announced a move from their grey Cowcaddens base, it was sold as "SMG to move from their
iconic city centre location."
Dull journalism at its best.
Posted by: disco dave, bishopbriggs on 12:24pm Wed 15 Oct 08
fantastic news it will keep the junkies busy robbin the tourists !
fantastic news it will keep the junkies busy robbin the tourists !
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:53pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]disco dave[/bold] wrote:
fantastic news it will keep the junkies busy robbin the tourists ![/quote] Yes for an area which was once home to 'Iconic' buildings along Maryhill Road and the canalside, it is now home to some of the shadiest, filthiest people in the city as the place is redundant, a barren landscape with pubs and shops which have no flats on top (a familiar Glasgow structure but not housed in the city centre). In this area we also see zombies and the young team swinging golf clubs in people's faces - oh yes, lovely place.
Can't imagine the tourist will be giving this place a good write-up.
Lonely Planet anyone?
disco dave wrote:
fantastic news it will keep the junkies busy robbin the tourists !
Yes for an area which was once home to 'Iconic' buildings along Maryhill Road and the canalside, it is now home to some of the shadiest, filthiest people in the city as the place is redundant, a barren landscape with pubs and shops which have no flats on top (a familiar Glasgow structure but not housed in the city centre). In this area we also see zombies and the young team swinging golf clubs in people's faces - oh yes, lovely place.
Can't imagine the tourist will be giving this place a good write-up.
Lonely Planet anyone?
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:09pm Wed 15 Oct 08
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby.
It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration.
As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby.
It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration.
As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:14pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]KB[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: [quote]Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.[/quote] Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as [italic]iconic[/italic] ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being [italic]exclusive[/italic] or [italic]executive[/italic] ? I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design... Or is it just lazy journalism?[/quote] tee hee When SMG announced a move from their grey Cowcaddens base, it was sold as "SMG to move from their [italic][bold]iconic[/bold][/italic] city centre location." Dull journalism at its best. [/quote] I was at an infrastructure planning meeting thing last week (detail not important) when one of the consultant architect types actually said they had plans for 'an iconic building'. When I asked 'how do you know it will be iconic?' he didnae understand. All BS doublespeak really.
I guess the building in Albion Street latterly did have an iconic status, but the wee grey building on Cowcaddens Road really doesn't?
KB wrote:
Pete wrote: Plans are also on course to create an iconic 98ft sculpture to form part of a £4m footbridge crossing the canal at Maryhill's Stockingfield Junction.
Is it actually possible to build anything in Glasgow these days without describing it as iconic ? Is it possible to build a house or a flat without it being exclusive or executive ? I'm sure it will be great. I love big public artworks. But surely things become iconic by cultural association rather than by design... Or is it just lazy journalism?
tee hee When SMG announced a move from their grey Cowcaddens base, it was sold as "SMG to move from their iconic city centre location." Dull journalism at its best.
I was at an infrastructure planning meeting thing last week (detail not important) when one of the consultant architect types actually said they had plans for 'an iconic building'. When I asked 'how do you know it will be iconic?' he didnae understand. All BS doublespeak really.
I guess the building in Albion Street latterly did have an iconic status, but the wee grey building on Cowcaddens Road really doesn't?
Posted by: weenyaff, glasgow on 1:36pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.[/quote] Hear Hear Fanto. I live in Maryhill and though its hardly leafy suburbia ( most of it ) - it's not the worst. A lot of building and refurbishment going on which will hopefully enhance the feel of the place. It does lack amenities and decent shops - so hopefully this will also be taken into account.
Fanto wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
Hear Hear Fanto. I live in Maryhill and though its hardly leafy suburbia ( most of it ) - it's not the worst. A lot of building and refurbishment going on which will hopefully enhance the feel of the place. It does lack amenities and decent shops - so hopefully this will also be taken into account.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:07pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.[/quote] [italic]It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like.[/italic]
Well Fanto, when you see the place in your eyeballs almost everyday, plus with extended family living in the area close to the area mentioned, i think I have every right to describe what the area is like, both past and present and I'm sure other people will say the same as maryhill can be a scary place.
Remember that guy Thomas Waddell who attacked and murdered that poor lassie after dropping her wee lassie off at school a while back?
Lovely area
Unemployable people would not know how to use the internet, read, write and spell, quite a few of them in Maryhill as well as other hotspots across North and East Glasgow, for which ET says nothing and neither does the politicians and the planners, leave the people to wallow in the quagmire of ghettotism.
Fanto wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like.
Well Fanto, when you see the place in your eyeballs almost everyday, plus with extended family living in the area close to the area mentioned, i think I have every right to describe what the area is like, both past and present and I'm sure other people will say the same as maryhill can be a scary place.
Remember that guy Thomas Waddell who attacked and murdered that poor lassie after dropping her wee lassie off at school a while back?
Lovely area
Unemployable people would not know how to use the internet, read, write and spell, quite a few of them in Maryhill as well as other hotspots across North and East Glasgow, for which ET says nothing and neither does the politicians and the planners, leave the people to wallow in the quagmire of ghettotism.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 2:09pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.[/quote] I'd love to be more positive about this - I am a fan of urban regeneration schemes and it's lovely to see the transformation of previously grim pockets in Glasgow into something admirable.
But I was mugged by teenagers not far from that site by a bunch of children (not even teenagers) who kicked me black and blue.
So it's great if the area can be given a lift but let's not pretend that this will resolve social problems of the magnitude that plagues Maryhill
Fanto wrote:
This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
I'd love to be more positive about this - I am a fan of urban regeneration schemes and it's lovely to see the transformation of previously grim pockets in Glasgow into something admirable.
But I was mugged by teenagers not far from that site by a bunch of children (not even teenagers) who kicked me black and blue.
So it's great if the area can be given a lift but let's not pretend that this will resolve social problems of the magnitude that plagues Maryhill
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:17pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]bluey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.[/quote] I'd love to be more positive about this - I am a fan of urban regeneration schemes and it's lovely to see the transformation of previously grim pockets in Glasgow into something admirable. But I was mugged by teenagers not far from that site by a bunch of children (not even teenagers) who kicked me black and blue. So it's great if the area can be given a lift but let's not pretend that this will resolve social problems of the magnitude that plagues Maryhill[/quote] Yes Bluey, agreed, anything that happens in Maryhill has to reflect on the wider area, doing up a building for example (Maryhill Burgh halls) is hardly going to transform the area
For those unemployable people who may be educated, at least the internet keeps them off the streets and out of mischief - if any educated unemployable people are of a mischievous nature, that is! ;-)
bluey wrote:
Fanto wrote: This sounds like an innovative plan and one that would be accessible to all. There are a number of projects in the North and Northwest of Glasgow that take young people to undertake these activities well away from the city. It would also mean a significant number would no longer have to go thru Glasgow to take up their hobby. It really is depressing to hear the unemployable on here constantly moaning about areas when they clearly only have some jaded idea of what it's actually like. Schemes like this help address problems of addiction and are a major boost in terms of physical regeneration. As usual, there is nothing constructive in the usual vitriolic mince.
I'd love to be more positive about this - I am a fan of urban regeneration schemes and it's lovely to see the transformation of previously grim pockets in Glasgow into something admirable. But I was mugged by teenagers not far from that site by a bunch of children (not even teenagers) who kicked me black and blue. So it's great if the area can be given a lift but let's not pretend that this will resolve social problems of the magnitude that plagues Maryhill
Yes Bluey, agreed, anything that happens in Maryhill has to reflect on the wider area, doing up a building for example (Maryhill Burgh halls) is hardly going to transform the area
For those unemployable people who may be educated, at least the internet keeps them off the streets and out of mischief - if any educated unemployable people are of a mischievous nature, that is! ;-)
Posted by: Brad on 2:29pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Sounds like a good idea (although I reckon the Locks themselves are an attractive and significant enough feature to use as the focal point for regeneration). As noted though, what's really important is housing and amenities (shops, etc). It's taking a he11uva long time to see any action around the Locks on that front though, and this isn't exactly the best time to be engaging developers' interest. But this could be a superb new urban quarter - expect the ET to call it Venice on the (Forth &) Clyde or something equally cheesy.
Maryhill needs a big boost- this could be one part of it. Let's hope...
Sounds like a good idea (although I reckon the Locks themselves are an attractive and significant enough feature to use as the focal point for regeneration). As noted though, what's really important is housing and amenities (shops, etc). It's taking a he11uva long time to see any action around the Locks on that front though, and this isn't exactly the best time to be engaging developers' interest. But this could be a superb new urban quarter - expect the ET to call it Venice on the (Forth &) Clyde or something equally cheesy.
Maryhill needs a big boost- this could be one part of it. Let's hope...
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 2:59pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Youth disorder of the type described above plague many areas regardless of their status in terms of deprivation. Kriss Donald was kidnapped in Pollockshields which is hardly the Bronx. Gangs are increasing at a far higher rate in Newton Mearns than in other areas of the city. But I'll leave it up to others to highlight individual instances. You can prove anything that way - it's the last recourse of the tragically uninformed as it's based on a sample of one.
I am sure that the improved lighting along the canal alone, which a scheme such as this would create, will help improve the situation. Given the record of danger in this area, it is good to see that this is being addressed. However, physical regeneration is especially successful when the community are engaged with it. The success of the Development Trusts model of asset purchasing is proving that. The refurbishment of Maryhill Burgh Halls is actually an example of that but why let that get in the way of a good rant? While these projects individually won't solve the many problems that are endemic in Maryhill they will go some of the way to making life better there.
Civic pride is undeniably low but let's change that with innovative solutions rather than whinging that "it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way". That's an unbelievably snobbish view to take and gives no account for the many good people who live there and who volunteer their time to improve it.
Youth disorder of the type described above plague many areas regardless of their status in terms of deprivation. Kriss Donald was kidnapped in Pollockshields which is hardly the Bronx. Gangs are increasing at a far higher rate in Newton Mearns than in other areas of the city. But I'll leave it up to others to highlight individual instances. You can prove anything that way - it's the last recourse of the tragically uninformed as it's based on a sample of one.
I am sure that the improved lighting along the canal alone, which a scheme such as this would create, will help improve the situation. Given the record of danger in this area, it is good to see that this is being addressed. However, physical regeneration is especially successful when the community are engaged with it. The success of the Development Trusts model of asset purchasing is proving that. The refurbishment of Maryhill Burgh Halls is actually an example of that but why let that get in the way of a good rant? While these projects individually won't solve the many problems that are endemic in Maryhill they will go some of the way to making life better there.
Civic pride is undeniably low but let's change that with innovative solutions rather than whinging that "it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way". That's an unbelievably snobbish view to take and gives no account for the many good people who live there and who volunteer their time to improve it.
Posted by: Chowdah, Glasgow on 3:24pm Wed 15 Oct 08
I can only presume those who think that Maryhill is not as bad as people are making out are having a laugh. It's the utter pits. Just because it isn't quite as bad as some other areas does not make it ok.
Would any of you walk along the canal after the hours of darkness? The Butny perhaps? The Barracks? Up Sandbank Street? Lindale? Along by the Bugle? A quiet shandy in The Maryhill Tavern or The Kelvin Dock or The Politician? Spend the night in Framptons? Only a suicidal lunatic or a yocal would do that.
I am afraid something like this is just pie in the sky nonsense. It has always been dog rough, hence the area being called The Botany (Butny), and it will unfortunately always remain dog rough.
I can only presume those who think that Maryhill is not as bad as people are making out are having a laugh. It's the utter pits. Just because it isn't quite as bad as some other areas does not make it ok.
Would any of you walk along the canal after the hours of darkness? The Butny perhaps? The Barracks? Up Sandbank Street? Lindale? Along by the Bugle? A quiet shandy in The Maryhill Tavern or The Kelvin Dock or The Politician? Spend the night in Framptons? Only a suicidal lunatic or a yocal would do that.
I am afraid something like this is just pie in the sky nonsense. It has always been dog rough, hence the area being called The Botany (Butny), and it will unfortunately always remain dog rough.
Posted by: Blind.hippy, ayrshire on 3:25pm Wed 15 Oct 08
The place needs £6million spend on housing not a big feck of swimming pool with poles in the water what the neds will be using then for spears ok i shouldnt really say neds only junkies to there you go to lower classes of our inner city schemes i recall working in maryhill many moons ago and it wis one big bomb site if you ask me. thias money is just so fat cat muppet {{ PURCELL }}and his sheep can say look at what we have done fur the people of glasgow.to get votes for next yrs election.
The place needs £6million spend on housing not a big feck of swimming pool with poles in the water what the neds will be using then for spears ok i shouldnt really say neds only junkies to there you go to lower classes of our inner city schemes i recall working in maryhill many moons ago and it wis one big bomb site if you ask me. thias money is just so fat cat muppet {{ PURCELL }}and his sheep can say look at what we have done fur the people of glasgow.to get votes for next yrs election.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:26pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
[italic] "it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way". That's an unbelievably snobbish view to take and gives no account for the many good people who live there and who volunteer their time to improve it.[/italic]
Yes Fanto, it seems to be the norm, especially in districts within the post war clearance areas, as most of these areas were wiped back in the day, and oddly enough, apart from a few housing plots (for which some themselves have been wiped cos the housing was so crap and did nothing for the wider area) there really hasn't been anything put in the place of what was removed, for which all was not bad, even if planners and politicians said so back in the day.
Maryhill was once an area of Civic beautification (hard to believe, but up to the 1950's, Maryhill was a snobbish area itself) with exception to the Wheatley inter-war housing scarring the landscape of the area - for which it now no longer exists.
Maybe the reason for people saying as you said it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way" is because people have been born into this type of community and lived with it all their bloody lives, so its deep rooted within the mindset, and with it comes drink and drugs etc unless they move or do a Suicidal Syd!
Thats what I believe anyway, so in that respect, Maryhill like most of Glasgow has to change, it been this way for far too long and the longer it stays that way, the more bad news it will continue to create for the brainwashed massess who believe people who live in such areas are scum and evil etc
The ordinary people do not have the cash or the fortune to turn the place around that was destroyed by civic and national authority and for that they should be seen as the innovators to connecting redundant, lost areas of the city and creating major revival - like Maryhill could become the New Camden - I'm sure Purcell and the ET would buy that for a dollar!
Fanto wrote:
"it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way". That's an unbelievably snobbish view to take and gives no account for the many good people who live there and who volunteer their time to improve it.
Yes Fanto, it seems to be the norm, especially in districts within the post war clearance areas, as most of these areas were wiped back in the day, and oddly enough, apart from a few housing plots (for which some themselves have been wiped cos the housing was so crap and did nothing for the wider area) there really hasn't been anything put in the place of what was removed, for which all was not bad, even if planners and politicians said so back in the day.
Maryhill was once an area of Civic beautification (hard to believe, but up to the 1950's, Maryhill was a snobbish area itself) with exception to the Wheatley inter-war housing scarring the landscape of the area - for which it now no longer exists.
Maybe the reason for people saying as you said it's always been a dump, so let it stay that way" is because people have been born into this type of community and lived with it all their bloody lives, so its deep rooted within the mindset, and with it comes drink and drugs etc unless they move or do a Suicidal Syd!
Thats what I believe anyway, so in that respect, Maryhill like most of Glasgow has to change, it been this way for far too long and the longer it stays that way, the more bad news it will continue to create for the brainwashed massess who believe people who live in such areas are scum and evil etc
The ordinary people do not have the cash or the fortune to turn the place around that was destroyed by civic and national authority and for that they should be seen as the innovators to connecting redundant, lost areas of the city and creating major revival - like Maryhill could become the New Camden - I'm sure Purcell and the ET would buy that for a dollar!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:28pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Blind.hippy[/bold] wrote:
The place needs £6million spend on housing not a big feck of swimming pool with poles in the water what the neds will be using then for spears ok i shouldnt really say neds only junkies to there you go to lower classes of our inner city schemes i recall working in maryhill many moons ago and it wis one big bomb site if you ask me. thias money is just so fat cat muppet {{ PURCELL }}and his sheep can say look at what we have done fur the people of glasgow.to get votes for next yrs election.[/quote] I agree - its **** poor for the sake of a few votes. Read my bit above in reply to Fanto
If it doesn't make sense, nothing will.
Especially as we never get any sense from Purcell and the New Labour pish we constantly get bombarded with.
Blind.hippy wrote:
The place needs £6million spend on housing not a big feck of swimming pool with poles in the water what the neds will be using then for spears ok i shouldnt really say neds only junkies to there you go to lower classes of our inner city schemes i recall working in maryhill many moons ago and it wis one big bomb site if you ask me. thias money is just so fat cat muppet {{ PURCELL }}and his sheep can say look at what we have done fur the people of glasgow.to get votes for next yrs election.
I agree - its **** poor for the sake of a few votes. Read my bit above in reply to Fanto
If it doesn't make sense, nothing will.
Especially as we never get any sense from Purcell and the New Labour pish we constantly get bombarded with.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 4:25pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Maryhill to become renowned for watersports / Lonely Planet states that Glasgow is a top tourist destination / Jumeirah Group want to build a new hotel.. Hope all those tourists aren't "sex tourists" coming for the wrong sort of watersports!! LOL!!
Maryhill to become renowned for watersports / Lonely Planet states that Glasgow is a top tourist destination / Jumeirah Group want to build a new hotel.. Hope all those tourists aren't "sex tourists" coming for the wrong sort of watersports!! LOL!!
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 4:27pm Wed 15 Oct 08
"I'll leave it up to others to highlight individual instances. You can prove anything that way - it's the last recourse of the tragically uninformed as it's based on a sample of one."
Fanto - I was the second person those kids attacked at knifepoint that night in Maryhill. As I worked in the accommodation office for Glasgow Uni at the time which included the Murano Street accommodation, it was clear it was not an uncommon experience, according to feedback from my colleagues who dealt with other assaults on students in that area.
Some other women would love to report their experiences of Maryhill on the forum to assure you that I am not a band of one but they are dead - 2 women murdered this year in the same tower block that is adjacent to the locks and a woman raped and murdered on the tow path the year before.
There is nothing more I would like than to be able to divorce my experience from the proposals and think it was some unique one-off experience rather than the outcome of the violent culture associated with that geographical space.
I've explicitly admitted it colours my experience of the area but let's not pretend that Maryhill is salubrious and has a low crime rate, nor get overly optimistic about how the provision of these amenities will improve violent crime in the area.
"I'll leave it up to others to highlight individual instances. You can prove anything that way - it's the last recourse of the tragically uninformed as it's based on a sample of one."
Fanto - I was the second person those kids attacked at knifepoint that night in Maryhill. As I worked in the accommodation office for Glasgow Uni at the time which included the Murano Street accommodation, it was clear it was not an uncommon experience, according to feedback from my colleagues who dealt with other assaults on students in that area.
Some other women would love to report their experiences of Maryhill on the forum to assure you that I am not a band of one but they are dead - 2 women murdered this year in the same tower block that is adjacent to the locks and a woman raped and murdered on the tow path the year before.
There is nothing more I would like than to be able to divorce my experience from the proposals and think it was some unique one-off experience rather than the outcome of the violent culture associated with that geographical space.
I've explicitly admitted it colours my experience of the area but let's not pretend that Maryhill is salubrious and has a low crime rate, nor get overly optimistic about how the provision of these amenities will improve violent crime in the area.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:54pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[italic]Maryhill to become renowned for watersports[/italic]
In a bit of toungue and cheek Steven
You usually get watersports all over Glasgow at any time of the day
You just have to be in the right place at the right time
Clydeside Press below Culture and Sport in the High Street is a hotspot for Watersports (ironically, or would that be co-incidental??) since they (Alba Town developments) removed the spare ground and benches from across the road at Glasgow Cross and built flats.
I wonder if Bridget McConnell has ever stepped in any puddles outside that building considering she is top dog of Culture, if she did, she probably would have thought it was some sort of protest and walked into her limo.
On the same note, I wonder if her good hubby Jack thought a vote for the SNP was pish considering, a vote for them was a protest against Labour?
The mind boggles!
Maryhill to become renowned for watersports
In a bit of toungue and cheek Steven
You usually get watersports all over Glasgow at any time of the day
You just have to be in the right place at the right time
Clydeside Press below Culture and Sport in the High Street is a hotspot for Watersports (ironically, or would that be co-incidental??) since they (Alba Town developments) removed the spare ground and benches from across the road at Glasgow Cross and built flats.
I wonder if Bridget McConnell has ever stepped in any puddles outside that building considering she is top dog of Culture, if she did, she probably would have thought it was some sort of protest and walked into her limo.
On the same note, I wonder if her good hubby Jack thought a vote for the SNP was pish considering, a vote for them was a protest against Labour?
The mind boggles!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 5:04pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Will the cooncil be launching gondolas, a la Venezia too??... Mair like it'll be like the klongs in Bangkok!!.. Pure bowfin' by the way!!
Will the cooncil be launching gondolas, a la Venezia too??... Mair like it'll be like the klongs in Bangkok!!.. Pure bowfin' by the way!!
Posted by: Renegade, Cyberspace on 5:16pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Chowdah: [quote]Would any of you walk along the canal after the hours of darkness? The Butny perhaps? The Barracks? Up Sandbank Street? Lindale? Along by the Bugle?[/quote]
You forgot to mention the Valley and Ruchill too, and would the Bugle be the Elephant & Bugle?
Watersports is a favourite pastime among the elitists as they love to p!55 all over the population.
Chowdah:
Would any of you walk along the canal after the hours of darkness? The Butny perhaps? The Barracks? Up Sandbank Street? Lindale? Along by the Bugle?
You forgot to mention the Valley and Ruchill too, and would the Bugle be the Elephant & Bugle?
Watersports is a favourite pastime among the elitists as they love to p!55 all over the population.
Posted by: weenyaff, glasgow on 5:30pm Wed 15 Oct 08
I'm sorry to hear of your experience Bluey. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens all over the city and beyond. It's not unique to the North West. There are literally hundreds of new houses that have been built over the last 10 years in the area and more planned.
If you combine better policing - and more appropriate ways of dealing with those who are caught - with better facilities and amenities then the place will continue on the up.
It's a handy place to stay - not too far from the West End and not too far from the City Centre - and decent access to the motorway as well.
I'm sorry to hear of your experience Bluey. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens all over the city and beyond. It's not unique to the North West. There are literally hundreds of new houses that have been built over the last 10 years in the area and more planned.
If you combine better policing - and more appropriate ways of dealing with those who are caught - with better facilities and amenities then the place will continue on the up.
It's a handy place to stay - not too far from the West End and not too far from the City Centre - and decent access to the motorway as well.
Posted by: youngchick, renfrew on 6:01pm Wed 15 Oct 08
This will only be used as an escape route from the latest "experience". Wake up and smell the coffee dafty,it is unique,you might not want to admit it but it is true.
This will only be used as an escape route from the latest "experience". Wake up and smell the coffee dafty,it is unique,you might not want to admit it but it is true.
Posted by: Dan McDare, South Side on 8:09pm Wed 15 Oct 08
Just another case of gentrification not regeneration. Has anybody bothered to ask the local community? No is the simple answer, case in point was the Big Man. What a joke that cost over £100,000 with no community involvement in the planning. What Maryhill and other areas of Glasgow are not fancy projects. Just ask the locals what they what. How simple would that be? Lets ask them.
Just another case of gentrification not regeneration. Has anybody bothered to ask the local community? No is the simple answer, case in point was the Big Man. What a joke that cost over £100,000 with no community involvement in the planning. What Maryhill and other areas of Glasgow are not fancy projects. Just ask the locals what they what. How simple would that be? Lets ask them.
Posted by: Brad on 10:59pm Wed 15 Oct 08
[quote]Has anybody bothered to ask the local community?[/quote]
[quote]The plans will now go out to consultation in the next few months[/quote]
Has anybody bothered to ask the local community?
The plans will now go out to consultation in the next few months
Posted by: weenyaff, glasgow on 9:53am Thu 16 Oct 08
Mr Dare ... I am a local and I think it sounds great.
Mr Dare ... I am a local and I think it sounds great.
Posted by: bobinson, Glasgow on 2:40pm Thu 16 Oct 08
Renegade, cyberspace !!!!
Wake up !
"Watersports is a favourite pastime among the elitists as they love to p!55 all over the population."
Thats why kids from all over Glagow can go down to ponds in their parks and sail and kayak for free !!!!!!!!!
Open yer eyes and get with it just because you want to sit on your fat AR~se and do nothing in the way of physical activity !
Renegade, cyberspace !!!!
Wake up !
"Watersports is a favourite pastime among the elitists as they love to p!55 all over the population."
Thats why kids from all over Glagow can go down to ponds in their parks and sail and kayak for free !!!!!!!!!
Open yer eyes and get with it just because you want to sit on your fat AR~se and do nothing in the way of physical activity !
Posted by: Renegade, Cyberspace on 11:10pm Thu 16 Oct 08
It was a joke Bobinson, ya fanny. Obviouslly sarcasm goes over your head. :-)
It was a joke Bobinson, ya fanny. Obviouslly sarcasm goes over your head. :-)
Posted by: Declan, glasgow on 11:04pm Sat 18 Oct 08
[bold]bold[/bold] i have been reading some on the comments posted by other uses about this artcicle and they are of a negative nature. i would just like to say as a 16 year old teenager living in glasgow with a love for kayaking i think this is a fantastic idea over the years i have had to rely on my mum to drive me to rivers and to my kayaking clubs and its really not fair. there is nothing to for young people to do especially if they have an obscure sport that isnt really recognised. i would just like to say i would be all for the idea of waterpark!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!
i have been reading some on the comments posted by other uses about this artcicle and they are of a negative nature. i would just like to say as a 16 year old teenager living in glasgow with a love for kayaking i think this is a fantastic idea over the years i have had to rely on my mum to drive me to rivers and to my kayaking clubs and its really not fair. there is nothing to for young people to do especially if they have an obscure sport that isnt really recognised. i would just like to say i would be all for the idea of waterpark!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!
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