Posted by: Gazza, Glasgow on 11:21am Fri 31 Oct 08
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.
Posted by: Aly, knightswood on 12:14pm Fri 31 Oct 08
Why don't they built a fecking footbridge instead of expecting people to run the gauntlet walking under the hellhole.
Why don't they built a fecking footbridge instead of expecting people to run the gauntlet walking under the hellhole.
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 12:21pm Fri 31 Oct 08
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:24pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..[/quote] The polis cannae dae onythin' aboot it!!.. They're a' aff work wi' stress!!
jrb wrote:
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..
The polis cannae dae onythin' aboot it!!.. They're a' aff work wi' stress!!
Posted by: CM, Whiteinch on 12:32pm Fri 31 Oct 08
The gate is an excellent idea.
The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long.
Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.
The gate is an excellent idea.
The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long.
Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.
Posted by: Aly, knightswood on 12:45pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]CM[/bold] wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.[/quote] I think the buses would sink under the water! tee hee hee.
CM wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.
I think the buses would sink under the water! tee hee hee.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:59pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]CM[/bold] wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.[/quote] Hopefully by using a bridge, of course!!
CM wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.
Hopefully by using a bridge, of course!!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 1:00pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]CM[/bold] wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.[/quote] Mind you, it's a novel way of cleaning the buses!!
CM wrote:
The gate is an excellent idea. The pedestrian tunnel has been a no-go area for too long. Now lets see some more bus services crossing the river too.
Mind you, it's a novel way of cleaning the buses!!
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 1:36pm Fri 31 Oct 08
jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong.
As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect.
Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em.
That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all.
So you are right, it really is that simple.
jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong.
As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect.
Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em.
That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all.
So you are right, it really is that simple.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:38pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..[/quote] How about waiting 'til they're down there then release big 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' style rolling boulders from either end?
Catch it on CCTV, release it on You Tube. Or get £200 back from 'You've been framed'. Great.
jrb wrote:
BY all accounts this has been recognised for years as a meeting point for gangs and drinkers of all ages,now more money has been thrown at the problem,Do we not and have we not paid taxes which is allocated to strathclyde police what have they being doing about this problem, as in other anti-social behaviour hot-spots absolutely nothing, it's about time they earned their money and got out and about,show their faces and gain some respect from the tax-paying public..
How about waiting 'til they're down there then release big 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' style rolling boulders from either end?
Catch it on CCTV, release it on You Tube. Or get £200 back from 'You've been framed'. Great.
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 1:47pm Fri 31 Oct 08
How long will the cctv cameras and secure entry system remain operational?
Waste of money.
How long will the cctv cameras and secure entry system remain operational?
Waste of money.
Posted by: John MacLean, Glasgow on 1:54pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote]Mind you, it's a novel way of cleaning the buses!![/quote]
When was the last time you saw a clean bus in Glasgow? Sir Geldof, they are howling, inside and out!!!
Mind you, it's a novel way of cleaning the buses!!
When was the last time you saw a clean bus in Glasgow? Sir Geldof, they are howling, inside and out!!!
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 2:01pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote:
jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong. As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect. Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em. That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all. So you are right, it really is that simple.[/quote] At the recent Scotland V Norway there were extra police drafted in to enforce the long standing stadiums drinks ban.This was a highly publicized event featuring in tv radio and other media outlets .Easy targets spring to mind,why don't they use the same tactics when dealing with Ned's,and undreage drinkers?are they scared to go out at night!..And your lost me with your "gas ,europe,discourse of power",have you had a little tipple with your toast& marmalade this morning!!..
aeu99217 wrote:
jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong. As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect. Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em. That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all. So you are right, it really is that simple.
At the recent Scotland V Norway there were extra police drafted in to enforce the long standing stadiums drinks ban.This was a highly publicized event featuring in tv radio and other media outlets .Easy targets spring to mind,why don't they use the same tactics when dealing with Ned's,and undreage drinkers?are they scared to go out at night!..And your lost me with your "gas ,europe,discourse of power",have you had a little tipple with your toast& marmalade this morning!!..
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 2:10pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote: jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong. As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect. Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em. That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all. So you are right, it really is that simple.[/quote] At the recent Scotland V Norway there were extra police drafted in to enforce the long standing stadiums drinks ban.This was a highly publicized event featuring in tv radio and other media outlets .Easy targets spring to mind,why don't they use the same tactics when dealing with Ned's,and undreage drinkers?are they scared to go out at night!..And your lost me with your "gas ,europe,discourse of power",have you had a little tipple with your toast& marmalade this morning!!..[/quote] Simple the polis are scared from the neds,they only hit the easy targets with maximum publicity from the gutter press
jrb wrote:
aeu99217 wrote: jrb, do you know what we need, police every where. it is the only way we will be able to cover all these trouble spots. A number of years ago they managed to do this in Europe. Or at least everyone thought there was police everywhere so no-one did anything wrong. As for gaining respect for the tax payer; they had ways of gaining your respect. Then once they're all caught a special division could be set up to gas 'em. That'll sort it. Nothing to do with cultures and discourses of power or any of that namby pamby nonsense. gas em all. So you are right, it really is that simple.
At the recent Scotland V Norway there were extra police drafted in to enforce the long standing stadiums drinks ban.This was a highly publicized event featuring in tv radio and other media outlets .Easy targets spring to mind,why don't they use the same tactics when dealing with Ned's,and undreage drinkers?are they scared to go out at night!..And your lost me with your "gas ,europe,discourse of power",have you had a little tipple with your toast& marmalade this morning!!..
Simple the polis are scared from the neds,they only hit the easy targets with maximum publicity from the gutter press
Posted by: andy3127, Troon on 2:24pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Gazza[/bold] wrote:
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.[/quote] Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol
Gazza wrote:
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.
Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 2:29pm Fri 31 Oct 08
social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 2:29pm Fri 31 Oct 08
well spotted the traffic polis will start patrolling with the fixed penalty and 3 points hahahahaha couldney make it up
well spotted the traffic polis will start patrolling with the fixed penalty and 3 points hahahahaha couldney make it up
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 2:31pm Fri 31 Oct 08
the neds could be hand cuffed on to the iron railings until the 'humans' get a chance to get to work without harrassment....there you are..sorted!
the neds could be hand cuffed on to the iron railings until the 'humans' get a chance to get to work without harrassment....there you are..sorted!
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 2:45pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote:
social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match. [/quote] So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...
aeu99217 wrote:
social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 2:48pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]andy3127[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gazza[/bold] wrote: I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.[/quote] Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol [/quote] Im sure the pedestrian tunnel has two lanes one for cyclists one for walkers,unless its been changed?
andy3127 wrote:
Gazza wrote: I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.
Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol
Im sure the pedestrian tunnel has two lanes one for cyclists one for walkers,unless its been changed?
Posted by: Smellie, Smellieville on 4:58pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]andy3127[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gazza[/bold] wrote:
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.[/quote] Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol [/quote] You're looking at the exit of one of the pedestrian tunnels. Each tunnel is one way for cyclists.
Used it many times ... just get up top speed on the way down, and if you haven't crashed and killed yourself by the bottom, you can freewheel half way up (then pech pech pech!)
andy3127 wrote:
Gazza wrote:
I have used this tunnel to cycle through for a while now and have never seen any neds. The worst problem is the broken glass that litters the floor ... and the trek uphill after reaching the lowest point.
Obviously clearly ignoring the HUGE yellow No cycling sign as seen in the photo lol
You're looking at the exit of one of the pedestrian tunnels. Each tunnel is one way for cyclists.
Used it many times ... just get up top speed on the way down, and if you haven't crashed and killed yourself by the bottom, you can freewheel half way up (then pech pech pech!)
Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 5:00pm Fri 31 Oct 08
Gangs this and gangs that - they are sodding teenagers who need direction. They're not real gangland members and we should stop referring to them as 'Gangs' as it only enhances their status!
Gangs this and gangs that - they are sodding teenagers who need direction. They're not real gangland members and we should stop referring to them as 'Gangs' as it only enhances their status!
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 5:16pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Ian[/bold] wrote:
Gangs this and gangs that - they are sodding teenagers who need direction. They're not real gangland members and we should stop referring to them as 'Gangs' as it only enhances their status![/quote] They act like a gang, attack as a gang,the police and locals refer to them as gangs,does that not qualify them to be known as a gang.we know they are not GANGSTERS we do know the difference.
Ian wrote:
Gangs this and gangs that - they are sodding teenagers who need direction. They're not real gangland members and we should stop referring to them as 'Gangs' as it only enhances their status!
They act like a gang, attack as a gang,the police and locals refer to them as gangs,does that not qualify them to be known as a gang.we know they are not GANGSTERS we do know the difference.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 6:04pm Fri 31 Oct 08
I used to cycle through the tunnel shortly after it opened, however, thanks to the internal combustion engine, I have often promised myself a nostalgic walk through it.
as for gangs of youths congregating within the structure, give them a bit of credit for being there and not in shop/close doorways, and it must make life a bit easier for the police in accessing the pedestrian tunnel from either end simoultaneously and trapping any quarry in the middle. I would think vandalism is a bit limited unless some numpty overdoes the etching 'plaster' from the walls
I used to cycle through the tunnel shortly after it opened, however, thanks to the internal combustion engine, I have often promised myself a nostalgic walk through it.
as for gangs of youths congregating within the structure, give them a bit of credit for being there and not in shop/close doorways, and it must make life a bit easier for the police in accessing the pedestrian tunnel from either end simoultaneously and trapping any quarry in the middle. I would think vandalism is a bit limited unless some numpty overdoes the etching 'plaster' from the walls
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 11:25pm Fri 31 Oct 08
[quote][bold]George Brown[/bold] wrote:
I used to cycle through the tunnel shortly after it opened, however, thanks to the internal combustion engine, I have often promised myself a nostalgic walk through it.
as for gangs of youths congregating within the structure, give them a bit of credit for being there and not in shop/close doorways, and it must make life a bit easier for the police in accessing the pedestrian tunnel from either end simoultaneously and trapping any quarry in the middle. I would think vandalism is a bit limited unless some numpty overdoes the etching 'plaster' from the walls[/quote] Whit age are you George? A Hunner? wee call them engines nowadays, nae offence.
George Brown wrote:
I used to cycle through the tunnel shortly after it opened, however, thanks to the internal combustion engine, I have often promised myself a nostalgic walk through it.
as for gangs of youths congregating within the structure, give them a bit of credit for being there and not in shop/close doorways, and it must make life a bit easier for the police in accessing the pedestrian tunnel from either end simoultaneously and trapping any quarry in the middle. I would think vandalism is a bit limited unless some numpty overdoes the etching 'plaster' from the walls
Whit age are you George? A Hunner? wee call them engines nowadays, nae offence.
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 8:44am Sat 1 Nov 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match. [/quote] So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...[/quote] i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change.
It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.
jrb wrote:
aeu99217 wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...
i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change.
It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 10:19am Sat 1 Nov 08
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match. [/quote] So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...[/quote] i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change. It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.[/quote] Anyway who cares I Certainly don't they can drink themselves to death and I Wouln'd bat an eyelid.
aeu99217 wrote:
jrb wrote: aeu99217 wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...
i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change. It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.
Anyway who cares I Certainly don't they can drink themselves to death and I Wouln'd bat an eyelid.
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 10:40am Mon 3 Nov 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]aeu99217[/bold] wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match. [/quote] So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...[/quote] i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change. It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.[/quote] Anyway who cares I Certainly don't they can drink themselves to death and I Wouln'd bat an eyelid.[/quote] you've kinda gone full circle there.
jrb wrote:
aeu99217 wrote: jrb wrote: aeu99217 wrote: social control doesn't start and end with the police. to make scape goats out of them is to simplify the issue. the violence reduction unit has recognised that tackling the culture of violence will take a generation, not a few extra police on the street. deep rooted understandings of masculinity and people's roles within society and their place in it will take longer to change than the time allocated to a 90 minute football match.
So the drinking culture and violence particular in the west of scotland is a new thing! don't make me laugh little attempt be it by police,social work or government has been made to tackle the drink problem in scotland, police seem to take the easy option when it comes to drink related crime..They ignore it!!...
i think you've read what you wanted to read. where did i say it was a new thing? if it was a new thing it would be relatively easy to change people's behaviour. It is because it is NOT a new thing and that it is entrenched within Scottish society that it will take a consistent effort over a generation to change. It is so easy to be a critic and take your frustration out by coming up with simple solutions and blaming the constituent parties which you see as liable.
Anyway who cares I Certainly don't they can drink themselves to death and I Wouln'd bat an eyelid.
you've kinda gone full circle there.
Posted by: calamero, Glasgow on 12:20pm Mon 3 Nov 08
The gates are a great idea (with some enhancements) - trap the little sods in the tunnel, push down a handle and wash them down the river with the rest of the sh1te.
The gates are a great idea (with some enhancements) - trap the little sods in the tunnel, push down a handle and wash them down the river with the rest of the sh1te.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 1:48pm Mon 3 Nov 08
my god everybody hates these wee neds, i think there should be a new policy that people be allowed the 'happy slap' to each and every one of them ...even a kick in the erse,... even if they they have not done anything it will teach them that this will give them an idea what to expect.....see, even the auld yins can be vindictive too......probably the only walloping they have had in their sad monotonous life, i am up for this idea, the cops will surely turn a blind eye maybe?.
my god everybody hates these wee neds, i think there should be a new policy that people be allowed the 'happy slap' to each and every one of them ...even a kick in the erse,... even if they they have not done anything it will teach them that this will give them an idea what to expect.....see, even the auld yins can be vindictive too......probably the only walloping they have had in their sad monotonous life, i am up for this idea, the cops will surely turn a blind eye maybe?.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:55pm Mon 3 Nov 08
Perhaps the Council ought to be carrying out a study or survey to assess just how many pedestrians, and cyclists use the tunnel ?
As well as those who would consider using it when the improvements are put in place.
Where is the point in wasting so much money, resources, and time - if the tunnel does not even appeal to the people the Council is trying to target.
How about getting our overweight councillors from the south side to travel to the City Chambers via the tunnel, as the free lunches, and buffets are beginning to show on their guts.
As for what the cops should or shouldn't be doing, it seems to me like the Cops are turning into Social workers, and extentions of parents, taking down details of unruly teenage gangs.
Surely its about time we tackle the problem of anti-social behaviour of teenagers head on - chase up the parents, and give the parents A.S.B.O's, or stricter conditions to ensure these neds aren't given such a free reign.
Given the choice most cyclists I know opt for the Squinty bridge, or the suspension bridge far more than the filth, and risk of broken glass in the pedestrian / cyclist Clyde tunnel.
Perhaps the Council ought to be carrying out a study or survey to assess just how many pedestrians, and cyclists use the tunnel ?
As well as those who would consider using it when the improvements are put in place.
Where is the point in wasting so much money, resources, and time - if the tunnel does not even appeal to the people the Council is trying to target.
How about getting our overweight councillors from the south side to travel to the City Chambers via the tunnel, as the free lunches, and buffets are beginning to show on their guts.
As for what the cops should or shouldn't be doing, it seems to me like the Cops are turning into Social workers, and extentions of parents, taking down details of unruly teenage gangs.
Surely its about time we tackle the problem of anti-social behaviour of teenagers head on - chase up the parents, and give the parents A.S.B.O's, or stricter conditions to ensure these neds aren't given such a free reign.
Given the choice most cyclists I know opt for the Squinty bridge, or the suspension bridge far more than the filth, and risk of broken glass in the pedestrian / cyclist Clyde tunnel.
Posted by: andy, Glasgow on 11:00am Wed 19 Nov 08
I have been using the cycle tunnel about 3 days a week for the last 6 months. I have not had any problem with neds although have not been through it later that 6pm. I regularly meet other cyclists going through it so it reasonably well used.
Main problem I have is the lethal pot holes and swamp that forms at the bottom after heavy rain.
When I was met with a fenced off entrance to the southbound tunnel this morning I hoped they were fixing the pot holes. On reading this I am not disappointed but please Glasgow City Council get the pot holes fixed so that I can at least have the fun of going flat out on the way down without fear of serious injury.
I have been using the cycle tunnel about 3 days a week for the last 6 months. I have not had any problem with neds although have not been through it later that 6pm. I regularly meet other cyclists going through it so it reasonably well used.
Main problem I have is the lethal pot holes and swamp that forms at the bottom after heavy rain.
When I was met with a fenced off entrance to the southbound tunnel this morning I hoped they were fixing the pot holes. On reading this I am not disappointed but please Glasgow City Council get the pot holes fixed so that I can at least have the fun of going flat out on the way down without fear of serious injury.
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