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Resident Alan Lee shows the problem of rubbish just left lying around near homes that creates the ideal conditions for the city's population of rats to flourish
Resident Alan Lee shows the problem of rubbish just left lying around near homes that creates the ideal conditions for the city's population of rats to flourish
 
 
 

Exclusive by Ewan Fergus


GLASGOW is becoming overrun by rats with almost 4000 calls for help made to pest control officers by worried residents in the past year.

The number of complaints - 3835 in the past 12 months - represents a 10% rise on the same period last year.

The previous year there were 3475 requests to pest control to investigate rats and in 2006 there were 3498.

Glasgow's West End is the worst-hit neighbourhood with 281 reports of the creatures in the Hillhead and Woodlands area in the last year.

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In Ibrox and Kingston there have been 223 complaints and in Springburn 191.

At one point in May, officers were receiving an average of 14 complaints a day about the problem from across the city.

They investigate each report and then take action where appropriate including laying traps and poison.

Today experts said the problem was caused by rubbish left lying in the streets and the fast rate at which rats breed.

Resident Alan Lee, who lives in Woodside in the heart of the most rat-infested area, took the Evening Times on a tour of his neighbourhood.

Rotting food waste was left lying around flats at Braid Square and St George's Road.

Behind one close in St George's Road were cardboard boxes which Alan, 26, thinks the rats are using as nests.

He said: "Round about Braid Square and St George's Road the problem is really bad.

"You see them, usually crowds of them. They're really big. They've got long tails and a fat body. It's disgusting.

"It's not something you'd expect in this area. We've got a lot of elderly people and there's primary schools nearby. It's a serious health and safety issue.

"It's worst during the summer. If you're out at night you'll see them most nights."

Alan, who is secretary of Woodside Community Council, added: "People need to learn to put their rubbish in bins and not just throw it on the street."

Councillor George Roberts, whose Hillhead ward covers Woodside, said: "The council and GHA have been working to resolve this issue, but the rats are so prolific they've gained access to some people's homes and the structure of buildings.

Rat facts

  • THE brown rat - Rattus norvegicus - can grow to up to 40cm long
  • The rodents can weigh as much as 500g
  • They have up to eight young per litter - and as many as six litters a year
  • They have a gestation period of about three weeks
  • It takes brown rats just 10 to 12 weeks to reach sexual maturity from birth.

  • They usually live on the ground or in burrows, but can also climb well
  • Brown rats are also the only rat species to occur in UK sewers
  • They eat around 30g of food a day.
  • "Several people have contacted me about the problem. There's a general problem with rats in the area, including at Garscube Road and St George's Road, because of people disposing of rubbish in the streets.

    "People have got to start taking more responsibility for their area. If they don't dispose of rubbish in bins, you get this problem.

    "Environmental health can do little about them in common areas."

    Rat expert Kevin Higgins of the British Pest Control Association said: "The problem begins when there's food available to them.

    "Conditions for breeding have been excellent this year and rats can breed like billy-o. They can live anywhere, and in cities their food comes from rubbish.

    "Rats like fat which is available in much of the food waste people throw away.

    "And every three weeks they can breed - once they've given birth they're able to conceive again.

    "There are two ways to deal with them.

    "First you have to remove the source of food, and secondly you've got to use traps or poison. That's the only way to stop them."

    He added that once a colony of rats establishes itself, usually in sewers, it doesn't take long before they start moving into people's homes.

    Mr Higgins said: "We get a lot of calls about rats coming up through pipes and emerging in homes. They're very agile."

    And he said water authorities need to make sure sewer pipes are properly maintained to keep them rat-free.

    A spokeswoman for Glasgow City Council said: "We don't have a major problem with rats in any particular part of Glasgow.

    "The primary issue is the availability of food and despite the Clean Glasgow campaign having a major impact on the cleanliness of our city's streets, there is still a lot of work to be done to stop the public leaving rubbish where rats can gather."

    Glasgow City Council's Environmental Services provides a free service for the investigation and treatment of rat infestations in all locations, except commercial premises.

    Environmental health officers will investigate within five working days after a complaint.

    The service covers all households, for both tenants and home owners.

    It doesn't matter if the infestation is in a garden, back court or vacant site, Pest Control Section will carry out a treatment which can involve laying traps or poison.

    Officers will also give advice on how to prevent rats from getting into homes, by taking action, such as sealing access holes rats may have created.

    It can take up to 10 days for poison to be effective.

    For more information log on to www.glasgow.gov.uk

    Publication date 14/11/08

    Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 11:16am Fri 14 Nov 08
    "You see them, usually crowds of them. They're really big. They've got long tails and a fat body. It's disgusting.


    Is this rats they're talking about or just the general underclass that pervades Glasgow society?

    Rats in Glasgow - well throw me up and catch me. What a story!

    Glasgow is a filty hole. No surprise there then, eh?
    Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:18am Fri 14 Nov 08
    i agree mate.
    Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 11:21am Fri 14 Nov 08
    general underclass that pervades Glasgow society?

    Glasgow is a filty hole.


    Move then. No one is forcing you to stay here.
    Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:22am Fri 14 Nov 08
    All this and no picture of Purcell???



    Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 11:36am Fri 14 Nov 08
    Until the idiots in Glasgow (and commuters from the suburbs) get it in to their thick skulls that dumping their bags of houshold rubbish in the street next to litter bins is unacceptable then the problem will continue to escalate.

    Other idiots continue to "feed the birdies" by dumping food on the ground, despite the warning notices around Woodside.

    The council can only do so much - the root of the problem lies with residents and commuters.
    Posted by: Donny, Glasgow on 11:48am Fri 14 Nov 08
    The Missing City wrote:
    All this and no picture of Purcell???



    I agree. The real rats to worry about are the ones that have infested the City Chambers for 60 years. It shocks me how the common folk of Glasgow's public defend these corrupt, in it for themselves bureaucRATS.

    Please Glasgow, lets clear out those "bureaucRATS". They do not serve you, YOU serve them!

    Maybe the historic budget deficit is the reason the place is a mess, infested with rats and poverty!
    Posted by: Trouserpress, Glasgow on 11:50am Fri 14 Nov 08
    Flytippers should be prosecuted under public health laws and have their driving licences withdrawn. I am absolutely sick to death of these selfish, ignorant **** who can't be bothered to drive to Dawsholm rather than dumping their rubbish in lanes
    Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:05pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Donny wrote:
    The Missing City wrote: All this and no picture of Purcell???
    I agree. The real rats to worry about are the ones that have infested the City Chambers for 60 years. It shocks me how the common folk of Glasgow's public defend these corrupt, in it for themselves bureaucRATS. Please Glasgow, lets clear out those "bureaucRATS". They do not serve you, YOU serve them! Maybe the historic budget deficit is the reason the place is a mess, infested with rats and poverty!
    Spot on with that fine assessment - they've screwed everybody from people in this city to their own workers and people still want more of it, that beggars belief.

    Woodside itself is a post war dump stuck in between the city centre and the west end (which are also rat infested), the place is surrounded by tons of concrete - its a hovvel. The place is full of rubbish and open space, streets with nothing apart from bollards and billboards - a common Glasgow sight which is a breeding ground for such activity.

    Can't just single out Woodside though, there are other spots in the forgotten North and East End that have the same problem.

    But yes, those in control have never bothered their backsides with these areas for years so it seems, so maybe an equal response by the locals as a result.

    Rats were a common problem back in the 50's, just goes to show after years spent wiping a city - the problem hasn't really gone away.

    The buildings then were apprently to blame, but never mind the place looking like a shanty town now, that doesn't seem to be the problem.

    What a joke!

    Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 12:07pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    This is a no brainer folks. The increase in the Rat population is in tandem with an increase in fast food shops and take aways and cafes in glasgow. Its the gastro pubs, cafe's take aways etc who have helped increase the rat population. Once the reession kicks in and places like Cafe Gandolfini close down we wil see a decline in the rat population. Simple.
    Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:19pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    If these guys know that rats eat fat from fast foods, etc then why not lace blocks of fat with contraceptive chemicals to stop them procreating? Given that we are no longer allowed to use poisons because it's considered "inhumane", contraception is the answer. Since male rats dont know what condoms are, then "the pill" is your answer! While we're at it, any chance the same treatment can be administered on the swine that killed that 17-month old baby?
    Posted by: Sam, greenock on 12:20pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    i tke it we are talking about the snp here-they are a bunch of rats who need to be extinguished.

    STOP THE SNP
    Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:24pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Meep wrote:
    This is a no brainer folks. The increase in the Rat population is in tandem with an increase in fast food shops and take aways and cafes in glasgow. Its the gastro pubs, cafe's take aways etc who have helped increase the rat population. Once the reession kicks in and places like Cafe Gandolfini close down we wil see a decline in the rat population. Simple.
    The increase in the Rat population is in tandem with an increase in fast food shops and take aways and cafes in glasgow.

    And Glasgow City Council grant the licences to breed rats.

    Yes, ironic as stated above.
    Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:34pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    So, they lay traps and poison. Nice. Again, animals are killed because humans cant behave themselves.
    Happens already with the 'dangerous dogs' thing - no. Its dangerous owners.
    Stop punishing animals just because humans are stupid.
    Of course rats are going to forage around when people drop rubbish. Thats what they DO.
    Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glasgow on 12:39pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    The Missing City wrote:
    Meep wrote:
    This is a no brainer folks. The increase in the Rat population is in tandem with an increase in fast food shops and take aways and cafes in glasgow. Its the gastro pubs, cafe's take aways etc who have helped increase the rat population. Once the reession kicks in and places like Cafe Gandolfini close down we wil see a decline in the rat population. Simple.
    The increase in the Rat population is in tandem with an increase in fast food shops and take aways and cafes in glasgow.

    And Glasgow City Council grant the licences to breed rats.

    Yes, ironic as stated above.
    Eh.. I think its down to manky, clatty pigs who dont dispose of rubbish. Fortunately Glasgow has an abundance of these people.
    Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 12:42pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Yet another failing of GCC to keep our streets clean.The problem will be multiplied once the M74 extension carves up the south-east of the city
    Posted by: mgtf, glasgow east on 12:55pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    omg, the video with this article, lazy dirty people who through out this rubbish. why can they dispose of the rubbish properly. old fridges, computer moniters etc, all lying there with house hold rubbish, no wonder there are rats, the rubbish is just pilled up on top of each other than putting it in the 'empty green bins' yes the bins the council provides for us to put out the rubbish, that rats cant yet open!! if people disposed of their rubbish properly it would make such a difference, dont waste too much food, recycle your rubbish then the actual waste wont be too much and all the bin bags will fit into the bins provided.
    Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 12:58pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    I agree it's the laziness of those disposing of their rubbish that's largely to blame for this but the Glasgow city cleansing department is also inept.

    Our backcourt is being treated by environmental health department for rats. A few months before this pest problem started, I reported a problem with the bin capacity and they promised an assessment and I never heard back.

    Following up on its progress made no difference as the cleansing department rarely responded apart from confirming that it was being investigated. Finally, a few months after the rats appeared, I was again promised that the assessment was going to take place that week and I informed them about the rats.

    The result of proactively reporting a problem to the cleansing department and chasing it up over a 5 month period? Nothing apart from the allocation of a reference number - no feedback, no extra bins, zero.

    But this is definately compounded by poor behaviour by some residents who just toss their bin bags onto the floor of the bin compound which attracts pests. They do this even when there is space in the bins when they've just been emptiede.

    We've already been informed by the council that we can't have wheelie bins that have more than twice the capacity of the traditional dustbins as they aren't being rolled out in our area, probably due to lack of budget for it.

    But even if we got the bigger wheelie bins, I think our problem will continue because some residents can't be bothered to put their rubbish inside bins.

    The shame of it is that it would be lovely to blame it on transient tenants belonging to private buy to let landlords who get all the bad press.

    Unfortunately, our tenement is largely owner occupied so it's simply the case that the owners believe that everything external to it is somebody else's problem caused by somebody's fault for someone else to deal with.
    Posted by: matthew, Glasgow on 1:00pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    glamkitty wrote:
    So, they lay traps and poison. Nice. Again, animals are killed because humans cant behave themselves. Happens already with the 'dangerous dogs' thing - no. Its dangerous owners. Stop punishing animals just because humans are stupid. Of course rats are going to forage around when people drop rubbish. Thats what they DO.
    Rats are vermin which carry disease and cannot be left to mutiply. If you had a rat in your house what would you do - let it live happily .. I don't think so.
    I wasn't aware of traps and poison being layed for dangerous dogs.
    Posted by: victor meldrew, condorrat on 1:07pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    glamkitty wrote:
    So, they lay traps and poison. Nice. Again, animals are killed because humans cant behave themselves. Happens already with the 'dangerous dogs' thing - no. Its dangerous owners. Stop punishing animals just because humans are stupid. Of course rats are going to forage around when people drop rubbish. Thats what they DO.
    You can't just regard rats as 'animals' - like squirrels or rabbits. -They're responsible for spreading killer diseases!
    Posted by: dmercer, Glasgow on 1:18pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Another reason for our tight neighbours in the East to visit. You don't have to pay for entry into Glasgow Zoo. Mind you the NEDS can be dangerous and are known to bite.
    Posted by: Snydey Bedwetter, Glesga on 1:52pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    dmercer wrote:
    Another reason for our tight neighbours in the East to visit. You don't have to pay for entry into Glasgow Zoo. Mind you the NEDS can be dangerous and are known to bite.
    Glasgow Zoo is alive and kicking on the First Bus service 240.
    Posted by: peachy rose, Glasgow on 2:00pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Some residents in the street I live in are so lazy they don't even bother putting the rubbish in bins. They leave it in the close or dump it in the street. It's no wonder there is a problem with rats. These people and many others like them in the city are manky and have no concept of the outcome of their actions.
    Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:13pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    glamkitty wrote:
    So, they lay traps and poison. Nice. Again, animals are killed because humans cant behave themselves. Happens already with the 'dangerous dogs' thing - no. Its dangerous owners. Stop punishing animals just because humans are stupid. Of course rats are going to forage around when people drop rubbish. Thats what they DO.
    Sorry Glam, can't agree. I'm an animal lover but rats are real disease carriers. If the people of this fine city actually picked up after themselves or stopped turning their back closes in disgusting middens, then perhaps there wouldn't be a rat problem.

    Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 2:14pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    matthew wrote:
    glamkitty wrote: So, they lay traps and poison. Nice. Again, animals are killed because humans cant behave themselves. Happens already with the 'dangerous dogs' thing - no. Its dangerous owners. Stop punishing animals just because humans are stupid. Of course rats are going to forage around when people drop rubbish. Thats what they DO.
    Rats are vermin which carry disease and cannot be left to mutiply. If you had a rat in your house what would you do - let it live happily .. I don't think so. I wasn't aware of traps and poison being layed for dangerous dogs.
    If I had a rat in my house, Id capture it with a humane trap and then let it go.

    No need to be obtuse about the dogs point. Im sure you understood it was the concept of punishing animals for humans stupidity, rather than the detail, that I was talking about.

    And to the poster after that one - of course rats are animals. I dont know what else you think they are.

    Neds spread disease too but, as necessary as I thnk it is, nobody seems to be suggesting poisoning and killing them.
    Posted by: atrocityexhibition, Glasgow on 2:17pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    On the subject rats and the scum bags who create the conditions for them to thrive in, when's the last time any of you were on the No. 62 bus? Even the driver has to sit behind a cage, I mean wtf? It is scum bags like this who leave rubbish everywhere that doesn't just include the areas in which they live. In pied piper fashion how about starting to drive the No 62 buses towards the Clyde and have the driver jump out at the last minute while the scum bags simply sink down into the murky water out of sight. Then folk who want to live without rats can work together and make progress rather than have their efforts constantly undone by scum bags.
    Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:20pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Neds spread disease too but, as necessary as I thnk it is, nobody seems to be suggesting poisoning and killing them.


    Well...
    Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:22pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    On the subject rats and the scum bags who create the conditions for them to thrive in, when's the last time any of you were on the No. 62 bus?


    Add to that the number 38. A bus so stinking of pish as to resemble a public convenience.
    Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 2:24pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Stewie Griffin wrote:
    On the subject rats and the scum bags who create the conditions for them to thrive in, when's the last time any of you were on the No. 62 bus?
    Add to that the number 38. A bus so stinking of pish as to resemble a public convenience.
    And the 40 and 41...theyre skanktastic.
    Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 2:24pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Hoof Hearted wrote:
    general underclass that pervades Glasgow society?
    Glasgow is a filty hole.
    Move then. No one is forcing you to stay here.
    No Hoof it's not him that needs to move it's the manky morons dumping their filth everywhere. And they should take the rats with them
    Posted by: GAW, Glasgow UK on 2:29pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    I live not far from woodside, and well know the problems:

    - the council refuse service is very poor. Walk around any district, any day of the week, and there will be rubbish strewn round streets. The council cannot even manage to do a junk uplift one day a week with any regularity. Sometimes they come, sometimes they dont, sometimes they come and take it all, sometimes they only take bits.

    - the ethnic chinese community in particular have a problem with dumping rubbish in the street (I presume thats what they do in china). The council do nothing about this, despite numerous complaints, and this in turn encourages other people to start doing the same. New City Road and West Graham Street are/were particularly bad for this.

    - GCC anti-vermin service is a similar joke. Its something like 2 guys with nets covering the whole of glasgow. At my last address, where we had vermin due to the chinese dumping food waste in the street, I was told by the Council they would note my call, but they could not advise if and when the service would appear to help. Needless to say, they never did.

    The dribbling incompetents who staff GCC should accept their pay deal and thank their lucky stars for the charity that is council jobs.
    Posted by: GAW, Glasgow UK on 2:31pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Neds spread disease too but, as necessary as I thnk it is, nobody seems to be suggesting poisoning and killing them.
    ----------

    On the contrary, it would warm my heart to see Einsatzgruppen deal with such individuals.
    Posted by: Gazza, Glasgow on 2:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Every day without fail some idiot leaves orange bird feed at the entrance to Kelvingrove Park on Gibson Street - an absolute magnet for rats then. Surely it isn't beyond GCC to catch the culprit and deal with the problem?
    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 2:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Everyone's forgeting about the Landfill Tax.Councils are desperatly trying to cut down the amount of rubbish going to landfill. They can't build incinirators because of the "Greens". Perhaps "environMENTALists" should come back to reality.
    Posted by: courleo, Ottawa, Canada on 3:38pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    I can tell you that Glasgow is a beautiful city ! Its just to bad that some people, a few, give it a bad feel. City counsil must clamp down on those who do this stuff. In the end its going to cost more for the city to let them continue to that S___T ! Taxes, Taxes, Taxes and more Taxes - fine the bums, but enforce the fines !
    Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 3:41pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Meep Wrote:
    Once the reession kicks in and places like Cafe Gandolfini close down we wil see a decline in the rat population. Simple.


    What is simple, is the massive ubiquitous chip on your shoulder regarding pleasant establishments like cafe Gandolfi. It is a clean and well run place and I'm sure will continue to thrive and offer fine service well after you are gone and forgotten.
    Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:00pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    The thinking alternative wrote:
    Meep Wrote:
    Once the reession kicks in and places like Cafe Gandolfini close down we wil see a decline in the rat population. Simple.
    What is simple, is the massive ubiquitous chip on your shoulder regarding pleasant establishments like cafe Gandolfi. It is a clean and well run place and I'm sure will continue to thrive and offer fine service well after you are gone and forgotten.
    "ubiquitous chip"... like it.

    But Meep was talking about Cafe Gandolfini, wherever that is. Near Cafe Gandalf no doubt.

    Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 4:01pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Every day without fail some idiot leaves orange bird feed at the entrance to Kelvingrove Park on Gibson Street - an absolute magnet for rats then. Surely it isn't beyond GCC to catch the culprit and deal with the problem?


    The pigeons soon clear it up. The rats have got no chance!

    Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:01pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Also, did anyone notice that the Jpegattached to this shows a council spreadsheet called 'Roland'. Somone at the council not taking the problem too seriously then?
    Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 4:08pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Quote from TMC:
    Woodside itself is a post war dump stuck in between the city centre and the west end (which are also rat infested), the place is surrounded by tons of concrete - its a hovvel. The place is full of rubbish and open space, streets with nothing apart from bollards and billboards - a common Glasgow sight which is a breeding ground for such activity.

    Excuse me TMC, as someone who has lived in Woodside all my life, I take serious objections to you comment! Not all of Woodside is "post war dump", given that my prevous house was built in '82 and my new flat built in '93! The area I live in, just off St. Georges road is NOTHING like that 'hovel' in the video, so you cant tarnish the area with the same brush.

    However, I have to vent anger at both the stupid idiotic gimps who live in the area, some in the close next to me who despite letters from our factor, and posters in the binsheds, STILL dump rubbish at OUR bin shed door. Worse are the bin men who dont pick up what is dropped from the wheeliebins when they are emptying them!

    I have been emailing pictures and copmplaint letters to EPS for a while now, and still had no reply. (Perhaps they didnt take too kindly to my reference to the "Clean Glasgow campaign"!?)

    What is needed is not a couple of guys stoatin about Sauchiehall St. fining people for dropping fag butts... there should be a whole team of people going round the city investigating who is responsible for leaving the areas like this and fining them... and I dont mean 50 quid!!! After all, it's not hard, given that I sent pictures to my factor of mail addressed to people from the next close in amongst the crap all over my bin shed! If I can do it, so can GCC!

    2f1
    Glad this issue has made it to the papers!
    Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:12pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Stewie Griffin wrote:
    On the subject rats and the scum bags who create the conditions for them to thrive in, when's the last time any of you were on the No. 62 bus?
    Add to that the number 38. A bus so stinking of pish as to resemble a public convenience.
    The 38 goes to Newton Mearns. As such, please do not use the term pish but rather urine.

    As NM folk never use public transport for fear of contracting some nasty, contagious disease then the culprits must come from the other end of the route, somewhere in the east of the city.

    Now there is a real public convenience, the whole place resembles a shoite house.

    Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:12pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Pete wrote:
    Also, did anyone notice that the Jpegattached to this shows a council spreadsheet called 'Roland'. Somone at the council not taking the problem too seriously then?
    Lots of Rat Fans in the council then Pete

    Especially as it looked like a toast or celebration to the amount of rats when you see Roland holding a glass of champagne in the faded image and wearing shedes as if all is cool.

    Wind up merchants!
    Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:15pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    shedes????

    That meant to read as shades. Probably couldn't believe my aye's when I was reeding the thing

    Yip Possil and Springburn are high on the list which is no surprise.

    Cosy Carmunnock - only 1 rat, could that be a councillor living in oppulence?
    Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:18pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    The Missing City wrote:
    All this and no picture of Purcell???
    Is that not him wearing a fur coat?
    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 4:20pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Another problem is shops who have to pay to have their rubbish collected and argue that "what do they get in return for all the buisness rates they pay?" and I do think they have a point.
    Posted by: PepsiBarker, Glasgow on 4:27pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    I think Cats Protection should hold back on their speying and neutering of the feral cat population this will help with the rat population because the feral cats will get a chance to breed and those new cat colonies will prey on the rats. Oh and let pet cats out at nights to let them do their bit in killing rats and mice and pigeons.
    Posted by: gerryferrie, Glasgow on 5:01pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    We had a problem in Maryhill - when you looked out of the window there was 15 to 20 of them in each back court every night (daylight) and they were nowhere near the bins they were on the grass and the only way I can describe it is they were grazing and authority was not interested. Having said that the bin areas where we are are a disgrace and again no-one seems interested.
    Posted by: c u jimmy, glasgow on 5:18pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    where i live in bishopbriggs the residents take a pride in there neighbourhood,the streets are clean and any rats here are tourists getting a break from the filthy west-end
    Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 5:23pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    c u jimmy wrote:
    where i live in bishopbriggs the residents take a pride in there neighbourhood,the streets are clean and any rats here are tourists getting a break from the filthy west-end
    What about the neds roaming around?

    Posted by: puritycontrol, Glasgow on 6:33pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    What do u expect when the bin men refuse to lift rubbish beacuse of health and saftey, Its a joke, and where is Purcell eh, away getting his picture taken somewhere I bet in a yellow jacket and a hard hat.
    Posted by: I Predict A Riot, Glasgow on 7:23pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    No need to worry about rats,the foxes eat them,gives them a nice warm meal:-)
    Posted by: SKYE, GLASGOW on 7:34pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Send for the PIED PIPER!
    Posted by: youngchick, renfrew on 8:23pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Crikeywe can post abiout rats,but not about a person who was convicted of multiple deaths .
    The Evening Ties,buries its head once again.:-(
    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 8:32pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Helmut de Smegma wrote:
    c u jimmy wrote: where i live in bishopbriggs the residents take a pride in there neighbourhood,the streets are clean and any rats here are tourists getting a break from the filthy west-end
    What about the neds roaming around?
    Sorry to burst jimmy's bubble but the real reason B/B is so clean is that the cooncil spend a lot more time cleaning up your sh1te because it's cooncilers control the cooncil.
    Posted by: Bill Struth, Craigton Cemetery on 8:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    Sir David Murray says there no rats in Govan.

    I believe him.
    Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:14pm Fri 14 Nov 08

    And, here was me, under the impression rats were highly intelligent creatures ?
    After all why else to they use them in labs for tests etc.

    Maybe we need to find a way to harness all the energy they have to power the national grid LOL ;-)

    How about using all these rats to turn a massive wheel & generate power for the city.

    The problem with trying to poison them, is that we end up with domastic pets being affected if they catch / eat rats which are baited, and not removed quickly enough.

    But, maybe all those who are complaining so readily need to ask themselves the questions ?

    Are they just as bad culprits for dropping edible litter, remains of carry outs, and chippies ?

    People must re-assess their habits, and how they dispose of their food waste, as well as ensuring it goes securily into bins, not just dumped beside bins, flytipped on pavements, or left lying in closes, or on surfaces rats can reach / access.


    If rats are so intelligent, maybe some of us complainers need to start using our alcohol and drug affected brains, and realise that it's out laziness thats causing this problem.

    We're basically just giving these rats a fcuking buffet on our streets, roads, and lanes accross the city.

    STOP MOANING ABOUT THE PROBLEM THEN DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT.

    STOP DUMPING & DITCHING FOOD WASTEAGE.

    AND START CLEANING UP ANY POTENTIAL FOODS THAT WILL ATTRACT RATS TO AN AREA.

    ITS PRETTY SIMPLE STUFF.

    BLAME THE COUNCILS CLEANSING DEPT FOR NOT CLEANING UP THE MESS IN TIME, BUT DON'T WAIT FOR THEM TO DO IT, IF IT MEANS RATS ARE HAVING A FEAST WHILE WE WAIT.

    ULTIMATELY - ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS >

    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 9:58pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    STOP DUMPING & DITCHING FOOD WASTEAGE.

    AND START CLEANING UP ANY POTENTIAL FOODS THAT WILL ATTRACT RATS TO AN AREA.

    My Missus is already doing that she calls it my dinner.
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 11:08pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    young chic, i have an idea who you are refering to and its nobody from scotland although the crime was done over scotland,,,, its funny this guy was soooo important to his country the police in his country are in no hurry to have him back.personally he should be given a one way ticket to a deserted island.
    Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:45pm Fri 14 Nov 08
    wild wadi wrote:
    STOP DUMPING &amp; DITCHING FOOD WASTEAGE. AND START CLEANING UP ANY POTENTIAL FOODS THAT WILL ATTRACT RATS TO AN AREA. My Missus is already doing that she calls it my dinner.

    Oh does she - you're lucky you don't have it tossed over your head with that cheek towards your missus!

    Either that, or your implying that you eat anything, waste included. Thought that was what folk got a dog for - the leftovers! LOL ;-)

    Posted by: DAVE, Glasgow on 12:59am Sat 15 Nov 08
    Meanwhile ......

    FORMER Lord Provost of Glasgow Liz Cameron has her official portrait unveiled in the City Chambers.

    At what cost to the taxpayers?

    Probably enough to pay for three rat catchers for a year.
    Posted by: KatPat, Nuremberg, Germany on 2:51am Sat 15 Nov 08
    Complain, complain, complain, is that all everyone in Glagow does? If the bin men dont come, take the rubbish to them. Eeryone has black bin bags, take to the City CHAMBERS AND
    DUMP THEM ON THE STEPS. THERE YE ARE MR. COONCIL. THE RATS WILL BE ALONG SHORTLY.
    Demand a complaint box, shop all those lazy
    neighbours, can be done confidentially I`m sure
    GET A GRIP, and DAE SOMETHING, DAE SOMETHING.
    Get organised in your local community about these slobs, or are u all waiting to be bitten?
    TEAM UP TOGETHER and stop moaning.
    I agree that these dirty slobs should be fined.
    Here`s to filthy, I am ashamed of the state of it. Or i could ask in Hameln here in Germany, where the Ped Piper comes from, if he needs a wee joab.
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:35am Sat 15 Nov 08
    SAM edtor of evening times could you do a favour? could you please write and warn the citizens of glasgow to let their children know that rats are not to be touched as they are diseased and cause illness....thanks.
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:55am Sat 15 Nov 08
    i am not an expert but i would not capture a rat and let it out to the wilds....these things go for the throat, and by the time the ambulance comes,the ambulance medics would be covering you with a white sheet....google the history of the damage rats can do.
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:04am Sat 15 Nov 08
    maybe we would get the rat problem sorted if someone in the cooncil was using the lavvy and one jumped on their heid....al hell would break oot....troosers roon the ankles,..knickers tripping them up oh my my what a good photi op(nae posin noo.
    Posted by: rmackay2, vancouver bc on 4:34am Sat 15 Nov 08
    Contact Dick McTaggart
    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 1:38pm Sat 15 Nov 08
    People Power wrote:
    wild wadi wrote: STOP DUMPING &amp;amp; DITCHING FOOD WASTEAGE. AND START CLEANING UP ANY POTENTIAL FOODS THAT WILL ATTRACT RATS TO AN AREA. My Missus is already doing that she calls it my dinner.
    Oh does she - you're lucky you don't have it tossed over your head with that cheek towards your missus! Either that, or your implying that you eat anything, waste included. Thought that was what folk got a dog for - the leftovers! LOL ;-)
    Of course I was only joking.

    I'm not working so I'm wearing the pinnie in this house.I'll also have you know that I am an excellent cook and I mean proper cooking and not just opening a tin either. Theres not much housework to be done as there is only the two of us. But as I'm a joiner there's a lot of unfinished DIY.lol.

    As for a dog? I did have one but it was for the affection.

    The difference between a dog and a wife.....the dog can be trained:-)
    Posted by: celtic4, United States on 2:47pm Sat 15 Nov 08
    Big city, poor refuse problem and collection, people dumping refuse all over, same problem here in New York, Chicago, etc.

    Try sterilization in food for rats. It is working here. Sterilize the little beasts and they will soon all die off. But keep throwing trash in streets and new ones will come around. End of story.
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 5:26pm Sat 15 Nov 08
    yes, mckay i agree with you about dick mctaggart, just found out he was a RAT catcher as well as an amatuer boxer in the late fifties, he seems like just the kind we need in glasgow....handy to police the areas and catch a couple of the TWO feet rats too.!
    Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 8:11pm Sat 15 Nov 08
    Actually rats are good for the environment.They eat all the rubbish we throw away. That's why there's so many of then in Glasgow.
    Posted by: rmackay2, vancouver bc on 11:06pm Sat 15 Nov 08
    To Trench Possilpark, yes Dick was about the best amateur lightweight around,he came from Dundee, I think Dick used to live in the tenement buildings in Cowcaddens facing the top of Hope St.that's when he worked at the ratcatching, I don't know where he is now.I used to live on Bilsland Drive,
    Posted by: sober, Chinese restaurant on 1:47am Sun 16 Nov 08
    Catch the rats and sell onto China ,after all it is a food source in Asia. Be a cannae Scot.
    Posted by: rmackay2, vancouver bc on 4:01pm Sun 16 Nov 08
    Isee Braid Square was mentioned, I used to go swimming at the Woodside Baths, too bad about the rat problem, actually my Wife & I use the Bank of Scotland right at the cross, it would be nice to see them solve this problem, clean the city up in some places, also stop the knife attacks, as far as I can remember we always had gangs (the valley mob-the cheeky forty, etc.)Glasgow has an atmosphere that I've never experienced anywhere in my travels, as for me ALWAYS A GLASWEGIAN
    Posted by: Jacqui T T, Glasgow on 9:17pm Sun 16 Nov 08
    Our back court is over-run with rats and each time my neighbour and I manage to get the Refuse Collection Department of the Council to actually lift our refuse other neighbours just leave their big bags outside the bin area. Lazy, lazy people!! There are only 2 households out of 15 trying to get the problem rectified and I can honestly say that the Pest Control Department of the council have been the best workers I have come across and have done their best to chase up the Refuse Collectors on our behalf. I just wish that people would stop being lazy and use the big empty bins that are provided and to keep our backcourt clear.
    Posted by: Carlos123, Hampshire on 1:52pm Mon 17 Nov 08
    Brighton on the south coast has many multi-occupancy flats in the city centre. They located large wheelie-bins (secured to metal poles in the ground) at the end of each road. You step on a pedal bar to open the lid and put your rubbish into it. Everyone uses them. Regularly emptied - one lorry stop in each street - quick and easy. No plastic bags left around for rats and seagulls to rip apart. No smelly bins in the hallways of the flats. Simple!!!
    Posted by: trench, possilpark on 6:26pm Mon 17 Nov 08
    so, glasgow has an invasion of RATS?.....i wonder why?, if the manky bastureds had stopped dropping their take away left overs and other food throw away meals in litter bins we would not have this problem,.... the rubbish bins are provided , its these round cylinder things that are scattered round the city, most people pass them every day I bet those people wondered what they were for, .... concider this a wake up call,....the rats may follow you home.
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