Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:20am Mon 17 Nov 08
The Argyle line staion at the cross neads to be reopened.
The Argyle line staion at the cross neads to be reopened.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:27am Mon 17 Nov 08
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:32am Mon 17 Nov 08
Is this some kind of Joke???
Where can all this stuff be found?
The Catherdral, Provands Lordship and the Necropolis gives us the right to be up there with the likes of The Great Wall and the Taj Mahal?
Naa, maybe if we had an ancient Castle, some medieval structures then it could be noted as such.
Mr Baxter said:
[italic]"Indeed, Glasgow is a fantastic Victorian city which has been described as the greatest Victorian city on the planet".[/italic]
Not much of that left either.
Mr Baxter also said:
[italic]"Glasgow has a medieval history which is every bit as important as Edinburgh, Glasgow is an industrial site on a scale which way surpasses Edinburgh and Glasgow has world masters of architecture including Charles Rennie Mackintosh".[/italic]
Hmmm is that why most of Alexander Thonmson's work was wiped as were some of Mackintosh's structures?
[italic]Mr Baxter insists the High Street is worthy of recognition alongside more famous thoroughfares around the world.[/italic]
Had the ruling Labour group got their way back in the mid-60's, the High Street would have been obsolete today due to the long-term fetish for motorways, it only got as far as the Royal, so it must have made sense to make Springburn obsolete instead.
Te High Street was looking obsolete there for the best part of 25 years, this must have been arrogance to ensure that the road would have eventually been built - anybody remember the plans in this very paper from around 1992-93?
Maybe a few re-creations of structures of days gone by and a bit more life around the Royal Infirmary would entitle us to such a status, just now it won't, and if it is declared as such in its current condition then it would be a slap in the face to those sites acrosss the world which deserve such a status.
I'm not saying Glasgow shouldn't have that, just Glasgow doesn't look anywhere near as historic as it should be considering the place is around 1,500 years old and legally declared a town 833 years ago.
The Missing City Indeed!
Is this some kind of Joke???
Where can all this stuff be found?
The Catherdral, Provands Lordship and the Necropolis gives us the right to be up there with the likes of The Great Wall and the Taj Mahal?
Naa, maybe if we had an ancient Castle, some medieval structures then it could be noted as such.
Mr Baxter said:
"Indeed, Glasgow is a fantastic Victorian city which has been described as the greatest Victorian city on the planet".
Not much of that left either.
Mr Baxter also said:
"Glasgow has a medieval history which is every bit as important as Edinburgh, Glasgow is an industrial site on a scale which way surpasses Edinburgh and Glasgow has world masters of architecture including Charles Rennie Mackintosh".
Hmmm is that why most of Alexander Thonmson's work was wiped as were some of Mackintosh's structures?
Mr Baxter insists the High Street is worthy of recognition alongside more famous thoroughfares around the world.
Had the ruling Labour group got their way back in the mid-60's, the High Street would have been obsolete today due to the long-term fetish for motorways, it only got as far as the Royal, so it must have made sense to make Springburn obsolete instead.
Te High Street was looking obsolete there for the best part of 25 years, this must have been arrogance to ensure that the road would have eventually been built - anybody remember the plans in this very paper from around 1992-93?
Maybe a few re-creations of structures of days gone by and a bit more life around the Royal Infirmary would entitle us to such a status, just now it won't, and if it is declared as such in its current condition then it would be a slap in the face to those sites acrosss the world which deserve such a status.
I'm not saying Glasgow shouldn't have that, just Glasgow doesn't look anywhere near as historic as it should be considering the place is around 1,500 years old and legally declared a town 833 years ago.
The Missing City Indeed!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 11:37am Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote]Glasgow is a fantastic Victorian city which has been described as the greatest Victorian city on the planet.[/quote] - only problem is, we now live in the 21st Century! I take it they are referring to the architecture being Victorian, and not the way in which GCC run the city?
Glasgow is a fantastic Victorian city which has been described as the greatest Victorian city on the planet.
- only problem is, we now live in the 21st Century! I take it they are referring to the architecture being Victorian, and not the way in which GCC run the city?
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 11:43am Mon 17 Nov 08
Aaaah!!.. I see where World Heritage are going with this one!! Italy has Venice and the Canale Grande - Glasgow has burst water mains flooding the Gorbals!! USA has the Grand Canyon - Glasgow's housing stock has cracks in the walls of their properties. India's Taj Mahal at Agra was built as a symbol of love, whilst we have "dissy Corner". China has the Great Wall, whilst over at Ibrox they sing about Derry's Walls. As for Machu Picchu, you only have to take a bus journey through some areas of Glasgow's eat end to see the similarities there! Well done, World Heritage!
Aaaah!!.. I see where World Heritage are going with this one!! Italy has Venice and the Canale Grande - Glasgow has burst water mains flooding the Gorbals!! USA has the Grand Canyon - Glasgow's housing stock has cracks in the walls of their properties. India's Taj Mahal at Agra was built as a symbol of love, whilst we have "dissy Corner". China has the Great Wall, whilst over at Ibrox they sing about Derry's Walls. As for Machu Picchu, you only have to take a bus journey through some areas of Glasgow's eat end to see the similarities there! Well done, World Heritage!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 11:46am Mon 17 Nov 08
Of course, I meant "EAST END".. Typo!!.. Sorreeee!
Of course, I meant "EAST END".. Typo!!.. Sorreeee!
Posted by: Rab Jones, Glasgow on 12:12pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Lets face it.
Compared to cities like Milan, London and New York, Glasgow is a dump!
Lets face it.
Compared to cities like Milan, London and New York, Glasgow is a dump!
Posted by: tadger, big smoke on 12:15pm Mon 17 Nov 08
WHAT ALOT OF SH!TE DID THE AUTHOR OF THIS STORY SIT ALL WEEKEND THINKING WHAT MINCE THEY COULD PRINT TODAY
WHAT ALOT OF SH!TE DID THE AUTHOR OF THIS STORY SIT ALL WEEKEND THINKING WHAT MINCE THEY COULD PRINT TODAY
Posted by: Happychappy, glasgow on 12:19pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Drive up the high street early on a Sunday morning. The sight of jakey's and junkies setting about their business as tourists plod past is depressing. Is this the best we have to offer??
Drive up the high street early on a Sunday morning. The sight of jakey's and junkies setting about their business as tourists plod past is depressing. Is this the best we have to offer??
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 12:20pm Mon 17 Nov 08
The Missing City's right. There's not enough of heritable value left to deserve this status. Edinburgh Old Town's in danger of losing UNESCO status because of over development - small scale stuff compared to Glasgow.
IS UNESCO status the be all and end all? Probably not, why not just recognise Glasgow for what it is. Certainly it's got buildings and streets of heritable value, but it's also a pretty modern and cosmopolitan place and attractive in its own right for that.
The Missing City's right. There's not enough of heritable value left to deserve this status. Edinburgh Old Town's in danger of losing UNESCO status because of over development - small scale stuff compared to Glasgow.
IS UNESCO status the be all and end all? Probably not, why not just recognise Glasgow for what it is. Certainly it's got buildings and streets of heritable value, but it's also a pretty modern and cosmopolitan place and attractive in its own right for that.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:20pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]tadger[/bold] wrote:
WHAT ALOT OF SH!TE DID THE AUTHOR OF THIS STORY SIT ALL WEEKEND THINKING WHAT MINCE THEY COULD PRINT TODAY[/quote] YES!!.. And she's got bags under her eyes to prove it!!
tadger wrote:
WHAT ALOT OF SH!TE DID THE AUTHOR OF THIS STORY SIT ALL WEEKEND THINKING WHAT MINCE THEY COULD PRINT TODAY
YES!!.. And she's got bags under her eyes to prove it!!
Posted by: daz, glasgow on 12:24pm Mon 17 Nov 08
"Mr Baxter, the author of a book on Glasgow's medieval history,".....and with christmas coming too.
no thanks ma, the broons will be fine!
"Mr Baxter, the author of a book on Glasgow's medieval history,".....and with christmas coming too.
no thanks ma, the broons will be fine!
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 12:27pm Mon 17 Nov 08
What planet is this guy Baxter from?
What planet is this guy Baxter from?
Posted by: D.W., Glasgow on 12:33pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Baku in Azerbaijan is far more of a "dump" than Glasgow, with most of its residents experiencing a level of poverty and urban decay that makes even the most decrepit parts of our city look like Heaven on Earth.
Part of Baku was classified as a World Heritage Site some years ago.
Baku in Azerbaijan is far more of a "dump" than Glasgow, with most of its residents experiencing a level of poverty and urban decay that makes even the most decrepit parts of our city look like Heaven on Earth.
Part of Baku was classified as a World Heritage Site some years ago.
Posted by: Eric Flack, Glasgow on 12:44pm Mon 17 Nov 08
So much was demolished in the way of so called progress in the 1950s that there is not much left to put forward in Glasgow for so called heritage listing.
So much was demolished in the way of so called progress in the 1950s that there is not much left to put forward in Glasgow for so called heritage listing.
Posted by: Eric Flack, Glasgow on 12:44pm Mon 17 Nov 08
So much was demolished in the way of so called progress in the 1950s that there is not much left to put forward in Glasgow for so called heritage listing.
So much was demolished in the way of so called progress in the 1950s that there is not much left to put forward in Glasgow for so called heritage listing.
Posted by: John Rendall, Glasgow on 1:03pm Mon 17 Nov 08
You lot really need to get a life...
You lot really need to get a life...
Posted by: victor meldrew, condorrat on 1:13pm Mon 17 Nov 08
I can't argue with the general consensus here,
Glasgow was the second city of the British empire, but that was in Victorian times. Most of old Glasgow has all gone now, and not all 'destroyed by the cooncil'. Glasgow's glory is now wholly confined to it's history books,- tourist would learn more about Glasgow by reading them than by coming here.
I can't argue with the general consensus here,
Glasgow was the second city of the British empire, but that was in Victorian times. Most of old Glasgow has all gone now, and not all 'destroyed by the cooncil'. Glasgow's glory is now wholly confined to it's history books,- tourist would learn more about Glasgow by reading them than by coming here.
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 1:14pm Mon 17 Nov 08
And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda
lised,torn-apart,sol
d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda
lised,torn-apart,sol
d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
Posted by: Aly, knightswood on 1:35pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]John Rendall[/bold] wrote:
You lot really need to get a life... [/quote] You need to take off those rose tinted specs
John Rendall wrote:
You lot really need to get a life...
You need to take off those rose tinted specs
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:45pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]John Rendall[/bold] wrote:
You lot really need to get a life... [/quote] Who are you referring to the Evening Times? Glasgow City Council?
If your dig is in reference to fellow posters, may I just add, that in reality, it appears that most people on here get out and don't get brainwashed by all the mince that's spouted about how amazing this place is.
The fantastic Victor Meldrew points out:
[italic]Glasgow was the second city of the British empire, but that was in Victorian times. Most of old Glasgow has all gone now, and not all 'destroyed by the cooncil'. Glasgow's glory is now wholly confined to it's history books,- tourist would learn more about Glasgow by reading them than by coming here.[/italic]
This is further backed up by the sharp Jaayarrbee:
[italic]And Glasgow has got! Filth , crime and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.[/italic]
[italic]Destroyed, vandalised, torn-apart, sold off, down and out, and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.[/italic]
That is the reality, and yet they (Labour) will constantly play it down and pretend it never happened.
I have read quotes from posters in the past couple of years saying ignorant stuff like - It was the fault of the people, its progress, more of it, history is nonsense, more skyscrapers, don't demolish the Multi's etc - just posters who really are sheep follwing the lead of Purcell and Co when in fact it is contributing to the further decay of Glasgow.
So who needs to get a life John?
I believe most of the posters above have it pretty spot on, it could be much better, but years ago, this would have been seen as pish to those in control - who needs history? that was the attitude even up to the late 80's, then suddenly the attitude began to change.
By then, most of Glasgow - historic Glasgow that is was wiped!
Don't be fooled by what the news tells you John, facts and recorded history will tell you stuff that's completely the opposite.
John Rendall wrote:
You lot really need to get a life...
Who are you referring to the Evening Times? Glasgow City Council?
If your dig is in reference to fellow posters, may I just add, that in reality, it appears that most people on here get out and don't get brainwashed by all the mince that's spouted about how amazing this place is.
The fantastic Victor Meldrew points out:
Glasgow was the second city of the British empire, but that was in Victorian times. Most of old Glasgow has all gone now, and not all 'destroyed by the cooncil'. Glasgow's glory is now wholly confined to it's history books,- tourist would learn more about Glasgow by reading them than by coming here.
This is further backed up by the sharp Jaayarrbee:
And Glasgow has got! Filth , crime and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.
Destroyed, vandalised, torn-apart, sold off, down and out, and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
That is the reality, and yet they (Labour) will constantly play it down and pretend it never happened.
I have read quotes from posters in the past couple of years saying ignorant stuff like - It was the fault of the people, its progress, more of it, history is nonsense, more skyscrapers, don't demolish the Multi's etc - just posters who really are sheep follwing the lead of Purcell and Co when in fact it is contributing to the further decay of Glasgow.
So who needs to get a life John?
I believe most of the posters above have it pretty spot on, it could be much better, but years ago, this would have been seen as pish to those in control - who needs history? that was the attitude even up to the late 80's, then suddenly the attitude began to change.
By then, most of Glasgow - historic Glasgow that is was wiped!
Don't be fooled by what the news tells you John, facts and recorded history will tell you stuff that's completely the opposite.
Posted by: heyjim, glasgow on 1:47pm Mon 17 Nov 08
It is the evening times job to print stuff like this - basically talking up glasgow. It makes a change from the usual stories about how glasgow is a top retail desitination blah blah blah
It is the evening times job to print stuff like this - basically talking up glasgow. It makes a change from the usual stories about how glasgow is a top retail desitination blah blah blah
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:59pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[italic]"Glasgow has worked hard at preserving its heritage and its distinct architectural personality sets it apart from most run of the mill European cities".[/italic]
Its pish like this that makes most people cringe, and and top of what I as well as other have written above, it certainly does it for me!
ET EDitor: Ever thought of re-branding your paper as a comic?
"Glasgow has worked hard at preserving its heritage and its distinct architectural personality sets it apart from most run of the mill European cities".
Its pish like this that makes most people cringe, and and top of what I as well as other have written above, it certainly does it for me!
ET EDitor: Ever thought of re-branding your paper as a comic?
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 2:20pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Mr. baxter And Mr. Purcell go on and on about glasgow's wonderful history and heritage,describing glasgow as one of the great Victorian cities.Why not then let glasgow get on with what it's good at, just that!, and not some modernistic,ponced up,metallic ,glassed,tintown hellhole which it's becoming, lets save whats left and Quickly..
Mr. baxter And Mr. Purcell go on and on about glasgow's wonderful history and heritage,describing glasgow as one of the great Victorian cities.Why not then let glasgow get on with what it's good at, just that!, and not some modernistic,ponced up,metallic ,glassed,tintown hellhole which it's becoming, lets save whats left and Quickly..
Posted by: Glasgow Avenger, Glasgow on 3:39pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.[/quote] i agree with Meep, Glasgow City Council doesn't deserve this, especially when you look at what little funding they actually put into public heritage projects and organisations.
too many mixed messages Glasgow, you can't be all things to all people.
Meep wrote:
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.
i agree with Meep, Glasgow City Council doesn't deserve this, especially when you look at what little funding they actually put into public heritage projects and organisations.
too many mixed messages Glasgow, you can't be all things to all people.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:14pm Mon 17 Nov 08
If there is a positive slant and a photo opportunity, Purcell will be right behind it.
When all the visitors arrive, I hope they are directed to Govanhell. Now there is an area that seems to have gone back to the Victorian era. People living in slum housing, filthy back courts and streets, Fagan type gang masters, etc.
If there is a positive slant and a photo opportunity, Purcell will be right behind it.
When all the visitors arrive, I hope they are directed to Govanhell. Now there is an area that seems to have gone back to the Victorian era. People living in slum housing, filthy back courts and streets, Fagan type gang masters, etc.
Posted by: Scotland0705, glasgow on 4:19pm Mon 17 Nov 08
I don't think Glasgow deserves it or should get it. There are only a few structures around there but the merchant city being so close to city centre, alot more development needs to happen.
I don't think Glasgow deserves it or should get it. There are only a few structures around there but the merchant city being so close to city centre, alot more development needs to happen.
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 4:49pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]The Wise One[/bold] wrote:
If there is a positive slant and a photo opportunity, Purcell will be right behind it. When all the visitors arrive, I hope they are directed to Govanhell. Now there is an area that seems to have gone back to the Victorian era. People living in slum housing, filthy back courts and streets, Fagan type gang masters, etc. [/quote] How about Paddy`s Market? - might be good to get some pics of this Dickensian area before it finally closes down.
The Wise One wrote:
If there is a positive slant and a photo opportunity, Purcell will be right behind it. When all the visitors arrive, I hope they are directed to Govanhell. Now there is an area that seems to have gone back to the Victorian era. People living in slum housing, filthy back courts and streets, Fagan type gang masters, etc.
How about Paddy`s Market? - might be good to get some pics of this Dickensian area before it finally closes down.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 4:50pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.[/quote] Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!!
This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC [bold]are not working for Glasgow![/bold]
So people [bold]STOP[/bold] voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!!
2f1
jrb wrote:
And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!!
This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC
are not working for Glasgow!
So people
STOP voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!!
2f1
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 4:56pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]2for1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.[/quote] Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!! This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC [bold]are not working for Glasgow![/bold] So people [bold]STOP[/bold] voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!! 2f1 [/quote] "LUCKY PIGEONS"..
2for1 wrote:
jrb wrote: And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!! This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC are not working for Glasgow! So people STOP voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!! 2f1
"LUCKY PIGEONS"..
Posted by: Brad on 5:54pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Somedays I just wonder what the ET journos sprinkle on their cornflakes...
I've met Messrs Baxter and Taylor: I wouldn't buy a sweetie off either of them.
Somedays I just wonder what the ET journos sprinkle on their cornflakes...
I've met Messrs Baxter and Taylor: I wouldn't buy a sweetie off either of them.
Posted by: IainGlasgow07, glasgow on 5:55pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Are the jakeys part of the street's heritage I wonder?
Are the jakeys part of the street's heritage I wonder?
Posted by: Brad on 6:03pm Mon 17 Nov 08
I'm disappointed that no-one has used the "Giza break" pun yet. Reflects poorly on ET posters in my opinion... ; )
I'm disappointed that no-one has used the "Giza break" pun yet. Reflects poorly on ET posters in my opinion... ; )
Posted by: tommo, vancouver on 8:04pm Mon 17 Nov 08
Why is there no comment on the SLUM LANDLORD? I think they should DEPORT him
Why is there no comment on the SLUM LANDLORD? I think they should DEPORT him
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 8:31pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.[/quote] Spot on Meep. Interesting too that it's Neil Baxter who is pushing this. Same guy who was Stefan King's spokesperson in Hillhead library, promoting the plans to turn part of the Botnaic Gardens into a nightclub. King, Purcell & Baxter - just what Glasgow needs to promote its heritage.
Meep wrote:
To give Glasgow world heritage status would be to reward the vandalism of glasgow district council. Main example is Pollok Park. If the council is quite happy to destroy the natural beauty of Pollok Park with an "adventure playground" for immature men, then world heritage status would be a sick joke. And how many buildings of historical value has the council let fall into ruin and disrepair. Under present conditions Glasgow doesnt deserve UN heritage status.
Spot on Meep. Interesting too that it's Neil Baxter who is pushing this. Same guy who was Stefan King's spokesperson in Hillhead library, promoting the plans to turn part of the Botnaic Gardens into a nightclub. King, Purcell & Baxter - just what Glasgow needs to promote its heritage.
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 8:42pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]2for1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.[/quote] Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!! This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC [bold]are not working for Glasgow![/bold] So people [bold]STOP[/bold] voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!! 2f1 [/quote] Please stop blaming the cooncil for the litter. It's the public that puts it there.
Then again, it's the public that puts the cooncillors there.
2for1 wrote:
jrb wrote: And Glasgow has got! Filth ,crime,and a population living on past glories, the place is a dump.Destroyed,vanda lised,torn-apart,sol d off, and out,and not just by developers but by successive labour controlled councils.
Agreed! Whilst there is some spectacular architecture in Glasgow (if you look up!), the streets are an absolute midden! I walked up Sauchiehall St today and the amound of food waste and litter was vile! I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!! This city has long been on the slide, which is a shame as there are a lot of great things about Glasgow and living here, but it is time for a reality check! People need to smarten up their attitude towards themselves, each other and the city. Grow some civic pride and take care of the city... 'cause lets face it GCC are not working for Glasgow! So people STOP voting Labour... they have destroyed this city and will continue to do so!!! 2f1
Please stop blaming the cooncil for the litter. It's the public that puts it there.
Then again, it's the public that puts the cooncillors there.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 9:22pm Mon 17 Nov 08
And it's the council's responsibility to clean it up AND to enforce litter policy! Why are there no litter wardens on Sauchiehall street at closing time at the weekend? Why are the litter fines so small... not in any way a deterant? Why are there not teams of cleaners on the streets in the early hours of the morning at weekends like there are in most European cities?
Because GCC are all talk and no action... that's why!
2f1
And it's the council's responsibility to clean it up AND to enforce litter policy! Why are there no litter wardens on Sauchiehall street at closing time at the weekend? Why are the litter fines so small... not in any way a deterant? Why are there not teams of cleaners on the streets in the early hours of the morning at weekends like there are in most European cities?
Because GCC are all talk and no action... that's why!
2f1
Posted by: k 1, glasgow on 9:42pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[bold]incidently people im, writing my dissertation on the conservation of Glasgow historic buildings, and the necessity for the evolution of historic buildings.... i.e. the need for a new use given to them to give new lease of life... anyway are any of you who have posted a comment industry construction / architectural professionals, as your REAL opinion may be of use to me.
incidently people im, writing my dissertation on the conservation of Glasgow historic buildings, and the necessity for the evolution of historic buildings.... i.e. the need for a new use given to them to give new lease of life... anyway are any of you who have posted a comment industry construction / architectural professionals, as your REAL opinion may be of use to me.
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 10:35pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]k 1[/bold] wrote:
[bold]incidently people im, writing my dissertation on the conservation of Glasgow historic buildings, and the necessity for the evolution of historic buildings.... i.e. the need for a new use given to them to give new lease of life... anyway are any of you who have posted a comment industry construction / architectural professionals, as your REAL opinion may be of use to me. [/quote] Been in the construction trade all my working life. If you want to know how to f'ck up a joab am your man!!!!
k 1 wrote:
incidently people im, writing my dissertation on the conservation of Glasgow historic buildings, and the necessity for the evolution of historic buildings.... i.e. the need for a new use given to them to give new lease of life... anyway are any of you who have posted a comment industry construction / architectural professionals, as your REAL opinion may be of use to me.
Been in the construction trade all my working life. If you want to know how to f'ck up a joab am your man!!!!
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 10:41pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote][bold]2for1[/bold] wrote:
And it's the council's responsibility to clean it up AND to enforce litter policy! Why are there no litter wardens on Sauchiehall street at closing time at the weekend? Why are the litter fines so small... not in any way a deterant? Why are there not teams of cleaners on the streets in the early hours of the morning at weekends like there are in most European cities? Because GCC are all talk and no action... that's why! 2f1[/quote] Naaaaaaaaawwww!!!!!!
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It's the f@kin f@nnies that drop the litter in the first place. You can't blame the cooncil for that! We are still the ones to pay for it to be picked up.THINK about it.
2for1 wrote:
And it's the council's responsibility to clean it up AND to enforce litter policy! Why are there no litter wardens on Sauchiehall street at closing time at the weekend? Why are the litter fines so small... not in any way a deterant? Why are there not teams of cleaners on the streets in the early hours of the morning at weekends like there are in most European cities? Because GCC are all talk and no action... that's why! 2f1
Naaaaaaaaawwww!!!!!!
!!!!
It's the f@kin f@nnies that drop the litter in the first place. You can't blame the cooncil for that! We are still the ones to pay for it to be picked up.THINK about it.
Posted by: rmackay2, vancouver bc on 3:40am Tue 18 Nov 08
GLASGOW SHOULD GET HERITAGE STATUS JUST ON IT'S HISTORY ALONE, WHEN YOU WALK AROUND GLASGOW LOOK UP AT THE ARCHITECHTURE,ARGYLE SYREET FOR ONE, I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF EUROPEAN CITIES, YES GLASGOW DESERVES THE HONOUR, ALSO THERE IS A LONG LIST AT WHAT GLASGOW GAVE TO THIS PLANET
GLASGOW SHOULD GET HERITAGE STATUS JUST ON IT'S HISTORY ALONE, WHEN YOU WALK AROUND GLASGOW LOOK UP AT THE ARCHITECHTURE,ARGYLE SYREET FOR ONE, I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF EUROPEAN CITIES, YES GLASGOW DESERVES THE HONOUR, ALSO THERE IS A LONG LIST AT WHAT GLASGOW GAVE TO THIS PLANET
Posted by: KatPat, Nuremberg, Germany on 2:16pm Tue 18 Nov 08
vour right there mackay, but people esp. the tourists cant look up, the`r too busy checking the pavement for all the rubbish, and I nearly forgot, the pot-holes everywhere to see the great architecture. I know that ecause I do it too when I`m home. But if u stand across the street and don`t move, then look up, u will certainly me amazed at the great architecture to be found. I have been to most major cities across Europe, and beleive me, Glasgow`s architecture is outstanding. I am not an architect, just a wummin born and bred in Glasgow 65 yrs ago.Get the Heritage possibility started.
vour right there mackay, but people esp. the tourists cant look up, the`r too busy checking the pavement for all the rubbish, and I nearly forgot, the pot-holes everywhere to see the great architecture. I know that ecause I do it too when I`m home. But if u stand across the street and don`t move, then look up, u will certainly me amazed at the great architecture to be found. I have been to most major cities across Europe, and beleive me, Glasgow`s architecture is outstanding. I am not an architect, just a wummin born and bred in Glasgow 65 yrs ago.Get the Heritage possibility started.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:02pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 4:50pm Mon 17 Nov 08
[quote]I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!![/quote]
Next thing we will read is that Social Services have opened a refuge for battered sausages and their sprogs, chipolatas.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 4:50pm Mon 17 Nov 08
I even saw a battered sausage flattened into the pavement! A WHOLE battered sausage!!!
Next thing we will read is that Social Services have opened a refuge for battered sausages and their sprogs, chipolatas.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:29pm Tue 18 Nov 08
yes, glasgow is an architectureists dream with the fantastic buildings which are second to none, pity there is no sence of pride any more,....lots of negativeity regarding the state of this city..." why duz sumdy no pick up these papers lyin aboot?, boattles lyin there?,dugs keech aw' ower the place?....sumdy should dae sumthin,.....sound familiar?, it is not somebody else's job to pick up litter, if you have pride in the town ...PICK IT UP, USE THE BINS PROVIDED...has every body in glasgow got the heart and kidney problem?......heart lazy and kidney be bothered disease? the 50's motto was KEEP BRITAIN TIDY and that uncluded...scotland ,england.ireland and wales(all tied up with monkeys tails,)....do a bit of travelling and notice the cleanliness of other places, you might like it!,graffitti vandals should be taken by the ear and made to scrub it all off, even if it takes days,scrub,scrub ,scrub, they could even be job openings for some of them to beat their boredom!.
yes, glasgow is an architectureists dream with the fantastic buildings which are second to none, pity there is no sence of pride any more,....lots of negativeity regarding the state of this city..." why duz sumdy no pick up these papers lyin aboot?, boattles lyin there?,dugs keech aw' ower the place?....sumdy should dae sumthin,.....sound familiar?, it is not somebody else's job to pick up litter, if you have pride in the town ...PICK IT UP, USE THE BINS PROVIDED...has every body in glasgow got the heart and kidney problem?......heart lazy and kidney be bothered disease? the 50's motto was KEEP BRITAIN TIDY and that uncluded...scotland ,england.ireland and wales(all tied up with monkeys tails,)....do a bit of travelling and notice the cleanliness of other places, you might like it!,graffitti vandals should be taken by the ear and made to scrub it all off, even if it takes days,scrub,scrub ,scrub, they could even be job openings for some of them to beat their boredom!.
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