Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 11:30am Wed 19 Nov 08
A lenient sentence no doubt awaits the offenders.
Once again the small fish are caught.
321 shops "visited" (cup of tea and a chat)to educate on imitation firearms.
Yet Victor Morris of Argyle Street continues to flourish - knives,air guns and pistols,swords,cross
bows,anti-stab vests...
A lenient sentence no doubt awaits the offenders.
Once again the small fish are caught.
321 shops "visited" (cup of tea and a chat)to educate on imitation firearms.
Yet Victor Morris of Argyle Street continues to flourish - knives,air guns and pistols,swords,cross
bows,anti-stab vests...
Posted by: ERIC LOTHIAN, everywhere on 11:32am Wed 19 Nov 08
Warning fellow members beware the guy who call himself [bold]Jim fae Glasgow[/bold] , he masquarades as [bold]eric fae lothians[/bold] in another newspaper, you'll know who im talking about, his 1 or if he's in a really intelligent mood 2 liners, punctuated with commas and full stops. The guy is a loser !!
Warning fellow members beware the guy who call himself
Jim fae Glasgow , he masquarades as
eric fae lothians in another newspaper, you'll know who im talking about, his 1 or if he's in a really intelligent mood 2 liners, punctuated with commas and full stops. The guy is a loser !!
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 11:37am Wed 19 Nov 08
Give it a rest ERIC LOTHIAN... we don’t give a toss! Fed up reading that!
2f1
[italic]Beware of the guy who calls himself [bold]ERIC LOTHIAN[/bold] ...his repetitiveness might bore you to death![/italic]
Give it a rest ERIC LOTHIAN... we don’t give a toss! Fed up reading that!
2f1
Beware of the guy who calls himself ERIC LOTHIAN ...his repetitiveness might bore you to death! Posted by: Colin, Glasgow on 11:47am Wed 19 Nov 08
"As well as targeting their business interests, we have been targeting their social circles, [italic][bold]encroaching[/bold][/italic] on their territory.
Unless "encroaching" actually means kicking down doors, SWAT Teams, Helicopters and our local criminal scum getting the full Dirty Harry treatment I am not too impressed.
"**** you copper! you ain't encroaching on my social circle! Take that!!"
"As well as targeting their business interests, we have been targeting their social circles,
encroaching on their territory.
Unless "encroaching" actually means kicking down doors, SWAT Teams, Helicopters and our local criminal scum getting the full Dirty Harry treatment I am not too impressed.
"**** you copper! you ain't encroaching on my social circle! Take that!!"
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:02pm Wed 19 Nov 08
I hope catching these criminals wasn't too stressful for Strathclyde's Finest!.. Don't want them to be off on the sick, do we??
I hope catching these criminals wasn't too stressful for Strathclyde's Finest!.. Don't want them to be off on the sick, do we??
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 12:58pm Wed 19 Nov 08
Fantastic results but would be much better if this kind of approach were the norm instead of a 1 off initiative - let's face it this is just a brief interruption that criminals soon recover from (by passing on the work to their pals/relatives or continuing with the same activities the moment they are bailed).
Then it would be the case, judging by the results for that one month period, that this time next year significant progress would be made. For example, this time next year, the following stats might instead be produced:-
276 firearms would taken off the street (instead of 23).Drugs worth an estimated street value of £6 million recovered (instead of £500,000. £1.2 million in cash seized under the Proceeds of Crime Act (instead of £105,000). 3600 vehicles searched, with 516 seized (instead of 300 and 43 respectively).
It's a good headline, great initiative but the fact that it's not sustained means the vacuum will soon be filled.
Fantastic results but would be much better if this kind of approach were the norm instead of a 1 off initiative - let's face it this is just a brief interruption that criminals soon recover from (by passing on the work to their pals/relatives or continuing with the same activities the moment they are bailed).
Then it would be the case, judging by the results for that one month period, that this time next year significant progress would be made. For example, this time next year, the following stats might instead be produced:-
276 firearms would taken off the street (instead of 23).Drugs worth an estimated street value of £6 million recovered (instead of £500,000. £1.2 million in cash seized under the Proceeds of Crime Act (instead of £105,000). 3600 vehicles searched, with 516 seized (instead of 300 and 43 respectively).
It's a good headline, great initiative but the fact that it's not sustained means the vacuum will soon be filled.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 1:01pm Wed 19 Nov 08
Or, we could send the bad boys to bed without their supper!! And threaten tae tell their faither when he gets hame fae work!!
Or, we could send the bad boys to bed without their supper!! And threaten tae tell their faither when he gets hame fae work!!
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 1:59pm Wed 19 Nov 08
Its a drop in the ocean,guns & drugs are widely available in Glasgow & every other large city..Though kudos for the amount they have managed to take off the streets in the past 4wks.
Its a drop in the ocean,guns & drugs are widely available in Glasgow & every other large city..Though kudos for the amount they have managed to take off the streets in the past 4wks.
Posted by: Ronnie Cee, Glasgow on 2:55pm Wed 19 Nov 08
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done.
All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else.
The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done.
All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else.
The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:04pm Wed 19 Nov 08
and another lot bites the dust...bad boy bad boy what you gonna do ? what you gonna do when they come for you...tra la la, ....just remember parents, the wee shoites can fool you but they canny fool the rest of society( you might lose your home as this disclosure puts the homes that have been blitzed are now in the terrorist list.....ammunition, weapons,criminal activities( which has probably been on survielance due to information from either police, neighbours and other gang members.... sook it up!
and another lot bites the dust...bad boy bad boy what you gonna do ? what you gonna do when they come for you...tra la la, ....just remember parents, the wee shoites can fool you but they canny fool the rest of society( you might lose your home as this disclosure puts the homes that have been blitzed are now in the terrorist list.....ammunition, weapons,criminal activities( which has probably been on survielance due to information from either police, neighbours and other gang members.... sook it up!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 3:16pm Wed 19 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Ronnie Cee[/bold] wrote:
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done. All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else. The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.[/quote] Fair enough, and I think the polis do ok, but what do they do when there's not a "crackdown". No guns taken off the streets then?
It's a bit much the polis writing press releases for doing their job.
Ronnie Cee wrote:
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done. All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else. The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.
Fair enough, and I think the polis do ok, but what do they do when there's not a "crackdown". No guns taken off the streets then?
It's a bit much the polis writing press releases for doing their job.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 4:49pm Wed 19 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Ronnie Cee[/bold] wrote:
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done. All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else. The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.[/quote] I'm questioning the overall strategy that's in place, looking at the bigger picture, which doesn't mean the one-off results aren't impressive but that I wish the momentum of the 'good guys' is continued. It's a good thing that will bring more good if it's sustained. There's no indication in the article that it's either a long term measure or will be repeated again in the near future.
This would stop it from being a PR grabbing one-off, a bit like that blitz at central station that unearthed a spliff but doesn't actually make any real long-term change?
You don't feel it's not worth carrying on this kind of targetting for the remainder of the year? and you are confident that the impact on criminal networks from this brief exercise isn't as brief as the undertaking? That's my worry (otherwise known as a 'moan')
Ronnie Cee wrote:
Bravo and warmest congratulations on a job really well done. All of the moaners who continually complain about the lack of Police activity against our scum are 'still' moaning (read above). Give it a rest folks, sometimes the good guys do win. Praise them when they do...or, simply shut up and moan about something (or someone) else. The arrests have been made...let's see the magistrates/judges handing out 'appropriate' sentences.
I'm questioning the overall strategy that's in place, looking at the bigger picture, which doesn't mean the one-off results aren't impressive but that I wish the momentum of the 'good guys' is continued. It's a good thing that will bring more good if it's sustained. There's no indication in the article that it's either a long term measure or will be repeated again in the near future.
This would stop it from being a PR grabbing one-off, a bit like that blitz at central station that unearthed a spliff but doesn't actually make any real long-term change?
You don't feel it's not worth carrying on this kind of targetting for the remainder of the year? and you are confident that the impact on criminal networks from this brief exercise isn't as brief as the undertaking? That's my worry (otherwise known as a 'moan')
Posted by: Riley, Dunoon on 7:29pm Wed 19 Nov 08
I am all for the police giving the bad guys a hard time but on going over the figures is it really such a result?Works out at 10 cars a day searched,approx 8 people a day arrested and all the premises visited by officers who do incidentally have a statutory duty under the Licensing Scotland Act to supervise licensed premises and also responsibilites for visiting Firearms dealers.So it seems to me that what we are left with is the police doing what you me and everybody else in a job does,doing what they are paid for.I hope the postmen trumpet how many letters they deliver next month.
I am all for the police giving the bad guys a hard time but on going over the figures is it really such a result?Works out at 10 cars a day searched,approx 8 people a day arrested and all the premises visited by officers who do incidentally have a statutory duty under the Licensing Scotland Act to supervise licensed premises and also responsibilites for visiting Firearms dealers.So it seems to me that what we are left with is the police doing what you me and everybody else in a job does,doing what they are paid for.I hope the postmen trumpet how many letters they deliver next month.
Posted by: N3utral Observer, UK on 9:18pm Wed 19 Nov 08
Long time observer. From what I have seen, if the police are reported for not doing anything, they are criticised. If successful results are published, they are criticised for: 1. Insufficient arrests 2. Lack of sustained effort 3. Letting the public know about these arrests!!!
Ever get the feeling that no matter what the police do, it will never be enough???
Must be a nice view from the ivory towers....
Long time observer. From what I have seen, if the police are reported for not doing anything, they are criticised. If successful results are published, they are criticised for: 1. Insufficient arrests 2. Lack of sustained effort 3. Letting the public know about these arrests!!!
Ever get the feeling that no matter what the police do, it will never be enough???
Must be a nice view from the ivory towers....
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 9:25pm Wed 19 Nov 08
another scam is identity theft, it goes like this.....a phone call identifying the caller as an officer of the court notifying you that you should be at the court for jury duty, you explain you had not been notified, the'officer asks for your date of birth and other means of identity...... HANG UP THE PHONE along with calls from 'bank employees' etc.(with all the data that has been going missing do not give any info(even if your grandson has sent his 'friend' to pick up his clothing and needs ten pounds for a taxi home as he is in the police station, hospital,helping a friend who is injured.(and do not let anyone in to use the phone......"sorry its no workin".
another scam is identity theft, it goes like this.....a phone call identifying the caller as an officer of the court notifying you that you should be at the court for jury duty, you explain you had not been notified, the'officer asks for your date of birth and other means of identity...... HANG UP THE PHONE along with calls from 'bank employees' etc.(with all the data that has been going missing do not give any info(even if your grandson has sent his 'friend' to pick up his clothing and needs ten pounds for a taxi home as he is in the police station, hospital,helping a friend who is injured.(and do not let anyone in to use the phone......"sorry its no workin".
Posted by: Riley, Dunoon on 10:05pm Wed 19 Nov 08
I wonder if the N3utral has a view on the Police in this case?
I wonder if the N3utral has a view on the Police in this case?
Posted by: J brown, Paisley on 5:35pm Thu 20 Nov 08
Come on give the police some credit, I wil bet
some of these mr bigs wil be lying awake waiting and wondering when will they put their door in. Ly awake swines they are coming your door next.
Come on give the police some credit, I wil bet
some of these mr bigs wil be lying awake waiting and wondering when will they put their door in. Ly awake swines they are coming your door next.
Posted by: mythoughts, east renfrewshire on 2:11am Fri 21 Nov 08
Give praise were praise due i stay across the road from junkies/alcholics and i am terrified because of the things i have seen, i am now on antidepressants because of them and i rely a lot on the police to make me feel a bit safer when they are kicking some innocent stranger to bits and steven 976 you dont even stay in scotland so why are you running our police down? Did you have to move to England because you where a ned up here? It is a very hard job nowadays what state would the place be without them and to all the moaners if you need the police are you all saying you would not ask for their help when you are attacked or your home is broken into i would not get any sleep at night if i never had a phone and the local police phone number near me so god bless them
Give praise were praise due i stay across the road from junkies/alcholics and i am terrified because of the things i have seen, i am now on antidepressants because of them and i rely a lot on the police to make me feel a bit safer when they are kicking some innocent stranger to bits and steven 976 you dont even stay in scotland so why are you running our police down? Did you have to move to England because you where a ned up here? It is a very hard job nowadays what state would the place be without them and to all the moaners if you need the police are you all saying you would not ask for their help when you are attacked or your home is broken into i would not get any sleep at night if i never had a phone and the local police phone number near me so god bless them
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:51am Fri 21 Nov 08
a thing i notice is ,when cars are broken into the druggies never report it.....i wonder why?,and if anyone knows who the car belongs to,would they let the police know? i doubt it (a 14 year old confided in me that the resident drug dealer owed him 40 pounds from a few weeks before, i asked him did he tell his parents ,he said yes and was advised by the parents to ask him for it mmmm, wonder what the kid done to earn that money from the local 'dead man walking',.....there is none so blind as though who WILL NOT SEE as these loser parents.
a thing i notice is ,when cars are broken into the druggies never report it.....i wonder why?,and if anyone knows who the car belongs to,would they let the police know? i doubt it (a 14 year old confided in me that the resident drug dealer owed him 40 pounds from a few weeks before, i asked him did he tell his parents ,he said yes and was advised by the parents to ask him for it mmmm, wonder what the kid done to earn that money from the local 'dead man walking',.....there is none so blind as though who WILL NOT SEE as these loser parents.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 5:17am Fri 21 Nov 08
pete, as bette davis would say,,,,,peta,peta,pe
ta,you know its just to gie the dope heids a fright, and the lessons and the time in jail allows them to recruit more mobsters....there is a lucrative business goes on in these bad places,,,,,and its not vegetables these guys are selling, its a great big office complex,the judicial system should charge rental for useing the premises and office furniture, typewriters, computers, phones, lighting etc.(civil rights? only if you are rogues)
pete, as bette davis would say,,,,,peta,peta,pe
ta,you know its just to gie the dope heids a fright, and the lessons and the time in jail allows them to recruit more mobsters....there is a lucrative business goes on in these bad places,,,,,and its not vegetables these guys are selling, its a great big office complex,the judicial system should charge rental for useing the premises and office furniture, typewriters, computers, phones, lighting etc.(civil rights? only if you are rogues)