Posted by: QuincyMD, Glasgow on 10:51am Wed 26 Nov 08
So staffing with money you don't have is the fault of the Government? Aye right, the trustees of this charity should be removed at once for such a monumental mistake.
So staffing with money you don't have is the fault of the Government? Aye right, the trustees of this charity should be removed at once for such a monumental mistake.
Posted by: Colin, Glasgow on 11:08am Wed 26 Nov 08
I would suggest they look at their marketing strategy. Having someone stand in Buchanan Street with a sign on a pole might be okay for saving souls or selling socks but surely not for something as precious and as arty as Lighthouse
I would suggest they look at their marketing strategy. Having someone stand in Buchanan Street with a sign on a pole might be okay for saving souls or selling socks but surely not for something as precious and as arty as Lighthouse
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:08am Wed 26 Nov 08
My experience of working with council subsidised art ventures is that the directors and those who are part of whatever is set up are usually cliques who hold cheese and wine parties, they make outsiders feel inferior and therefore they outsiders are unable to secure work because they are not in the band of cliques.
Furthermore - do they not overspend on budgets - first class flights etc?
As a result, I guess many people outside the arty farty brigade have probably never been in this building since it opened.
My experience of working with council subsidised art ventures is that the directors and those who are part of whatever is set up are usually cliques who hold cheese and wine parties, they make outsiders feel inferior and therefore they outsiders are unable to secure work because they are not in the band of cliques.
Furthermore - do they not overspend on budgets - first class flights etc?
As a result, I guess many people outside the arty farty brigade have probably never been in this building since it opened.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 11:36am Wed 26 Nov 08
It's a very nice place, but I have to say the only times I've ever been in is for a party held by some publicly funded arts thing.
The people who work there are extremely nice, so I don't know where the Missing City gets the chip on her shoulder from.
I don't know why private companies don't use it, rather than the godawful, hotels they do use for their events. It's much nicer than the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox, but I suppose the problem is parking.
It's a very nice place, but I have to say the only times I've ever been in is for a party held by some publicly funded arts thing.
The people who work there are extremely nice, so I don't know where the Missing City gets the chip on her shoulder from.
I don't know why private companies don't use it, rather than the godawful, hotels they do use for their events. It's much nicer than the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox, but I suppose the problem is parking.
Posted by: Brad on 11:41am Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote]the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox[/quote] The [italic]usual[/italic] places? Maybe you're going to the wrong events!
I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.
the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox
The
usual places? Maybe you're going to the wrong events!
I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 11:49am Wed 26 Nov 08
Well I go where I'm invited for seminars, receptions and presentations by organisations in the business field I work in. These are the venues their people choose, and I wish they would use their imagination and choose better ones. Maybe they think the Lighthouse is [italic]too[/italic] arty!
I have to say that the worst place is that disgusting hotel at Central Station. I think that if the Lighthouse put some real effort into promoting itself to businesses that hold these events they would turn a handsome profit.
Well I go where I'm invited for seminars, receptions and presentations by organisations in the business field I work in. These are the venues their people choose, and I wish they would use their imagination and choose better ones. Maybe they think the Lighthouse is
too arty!
I have to say that the worst place is that disgusting hotel at Central Station. I think that if the Lighthouse put some real effort into promoting itself to businesses that hold these events they would turn a handsome profit.
Posted by: Brad on 12:18pm Wed 26 Nov 08
I've not been to the Central but I only hear bad things about it. Shame. By sheer coincidence, I'm actually going to an event at the Swallow later this week!
I've been to events at The Lighthouse and don't actually think it's very good: the acoustics are terrible in some rooms (strangely, there seems to be a link between a place being very 'design-focused' and not being very well-designed). But you may be right that it could do more.
I've not been to the Central but I only hear bad things about it. Shame. By sheer coincidence, I'm actually going to an event at the Swallow later this week!
I've been to events at The Lighthouse and don't actually think it's very good: the acoustics are terrible in some rooms (strangely, there seems to be a link between a place being very 'design-focused' and not being very well-designed). But you may be right that it could do more.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:28pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[italic]I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.[/italic]
Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies!
I have been in the Lighthouse twice since it opened all those years ago
Once was for a photo exhibition a few years back which my work was part of and the other was a Mazarolli film weekend last year.
Apart from that, nothing much else has appealed to me, never mind the rest of the city.
I get the impression from reading on here that Glasgow is only those within the City Centre The West End a bit of the Southside.
The rest of the city (for which most would rather not know about, or pretend it never existed) seem to be non-relevant.
Social exclusion is rife - mainly due to those having heads stuck firmly up anus!
And their response is to say - Chip on Shoulder!!!
That's the best laugh I've had today!
I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.
Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies!
I have been in the Lighthouse twice since it opened all those years ago
Once was for a photo exhibition a few years back which my work was part of and the other was a Mazarolli film weekend last year.
Apart from that, nothing much else has appealed to me, never mind the rest of the city.
I get the impression from reading on here that Glasgow is only those within the City Centre The West End a bit of the Southside.
The rest of the city (for which most would rather not know about, or pretend it never existed) seem to be non-relevant.
Social exclusion is rife - mainly due to those having heads stuck firmly up anus!
And their response is to say - Chip on Shoulder!!!
That's the best laugh I've had today!
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:38pm Wed 26 Nov 08
The Missing City - nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.
The Missing City - nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:40pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[italic]Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies![/italic]
Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"
Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies!
Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"
Posted by: swiss scottish, Argyll on 12:52pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[bold]dear institution or civil engineers (ICE) and institution of structural engineers (IstructE), why is it that you use the teacher building(mech and elec eng building) for seminars and not the Architectural centre; the Lighthouse? Come on get your tweed jackets off old men who lead these institutions wake up from your morning nap and move on. Let the new generation thrive....we will book the lighthouse for seminars once a week for the year![/bold]
dear institution or civil engineers (ICE) and institution of structural engineers (IstructE), why is it that you use the teacher building(mech and elec eng building) for seminars and not the Architectural centre; the Lighthouse? Come on get your tweed jackets off old men who lead these institutions wake up from your morning nap and move on. Let the new generation thrive....we will book the lighthouse for seminars once a week for the year! Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 12:57pm Wed 26 Nov 08
ooh, I feel all elitist now because I really rate it as a venue, for its imaginative exhibitions, the catering space, the shop.
Some of the exhibitions are not my thing in terms of theme/content and occasionally I think they are a bit thin in terms of execution.
However, overall I've been impressed and think its a flagship arts venue for visitors that is also an ideal tourist attraction.
I like the rapid change in exhibions, unlike the Museum of Modern art which can get pretty static but I appreciate that longer exhibitions make sense there.
Clearly it's focussed on art/design so this niche will not always appeal to those who have little interest in this field.
I am sure it can improve its wider appeal to a larger audience but there's only so much in how it can change its remit (art/design) to catch those who don't think this kind of thing appeals.
But I have mixed feelings about projects that seek to broaden participation because some areas of culture will always appeal to particular groups and others will always be largely rejected - there's only so much you can do when the impulse and attitudes towards different forms of art comes from social/cultural factors in the population.
ooh, I feel all elitist now because I really rate it as a venue, for its imaginative exhibitions, the catering space, the shop.
Some of the exhibitions are not my thing in terms of theme/content and occasionally I think they are a bit thin in terms of execution.
However, overall I've been impressed and think its a flagship arts venue for visitors that is also an ideal tourist attraction.
I like the rapid change in exhibions, unlike the Museum of Modern art which can get pretty static but I appreciate that longer exhibitions make sense there.
Clearly it's focussed on art/design so this niche will not always appeal to those who have little interest in this field.
I am sure it can improve its wider appeal to a larger audience but there's only so much in how it can change its remit (art/design) to catch those who don't think this kind of thing appeals.
But I have mixed feelings about projects that seek to broaden participation because some areas of culture will always appeal to particular groups and others will always be largely rejected - there's only so much you can do when the impulse and attitudes towards different forms of art comes from social/cultural factors in the population.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:58pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
[italic]Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies![/italic] Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"[/quote] Who mentioned taking chips into an exhibition venue outwith the person who just said it above Johnny? (Oh, that was you!!).
The Lentil Curry Pie Brigade - just an off the wall comment for cliques - you part of that lot then?
It appears that you like them and somehow they do great things, I disagree because until they can attract - for example, young people from socially disadvantaged backgrounds who would otherwise be devoid of anything relating to Art & Architecture, so until that happens then my opinion won't change.
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies! Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"
Who mentioned taking chips into an exhibition venue outwith the person who just said it above Johnny? (Oh, that was you!!).
The Lentil Curry Pie Brigade - just an off the wall comment for cliques - you part of that lot then?
It appears that you like them and somehow they do great things, I disagree because until they can attract - for example, young people from socially disadvantaged backgrounds who would otherwise be devoid of anything relating to Art & Architecture, so until that happens then my opinion won't change.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:18pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox[/quote] The [italic]usual[/italic] places? Maybe you're going to the wrong events! I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.[/quote] Gotta agree on 'the usual places'. Does your work really send you there? You in a union? I'd raise a complaint. I get The Radisson, and some of the swanky wans in Edinburgh.
I like the lighthouse as a place. Good for a wander about (if you can get away with not paying) and a climb up the tower. Exhibitions are ok sometimes.
I've actually hired it once as a venue for a seminar and attended a few other worky things there. Itr's no great - funny layouts and just the sense it's a bit disorganised.
Brad wrote:
the usual places like the Normandy Hotel in Renfrew or the Campanile in Anderston or the Swallow in Ibrox
The usual places? Maybe you're going to the wrong events! I would agree with TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people. Even if you have an interest in architecture and design, there's not much to attract you, and the exhibitions are often pretty weak. That's my view anyway.
Gotta agree on 'the usual places'. Does your work really send you there? You in a union? I'd raise a complaint. I get The Radisson, and some of the swanky wans in Edinburgh.
I like the lighthouse as a place. Good for a wander about (if you can get away with not paying) and a climb up the tower. Exhibitions are ok sometimes.
I've actually hired it once as a venue for a seminar and attended a few other worky things there. Itr's no great - funny layouts and just the sense it's a bit disorganised.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:19pm Wed 26 Nov 08
And... lentil curry pies are just a bit 'noncy'.
And... lentil curry pies are just a bit 'noncy'.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 1:34pm Wed 26 Nov 08
Sorry , but i dont have any sympathy for The Lighthouse. It hasnt made any definite impact on improving glasgows culture or development. I actually went in their one time to do a nosey and i was made to feel inferior by some dafty art student wifey who was at the entrance supposedly being a "greeter" to the public. I would say that The lighthouse is not viable or relevant Glasgow's way of life. Whoever has been running it needs to get a kick up the arse and a single way train ticket back to their Edinburgh arts ghetto.
Sorry , but i dont have any sympathy for The Lighthouse. It hasnt made any definite impact on improving glasgows culture or development. I actually went in their one time to do a nosey and i was made to feel inferior by some dafty art student wifey who was at the entrance supposedly being a "greeter" to the public. I would say that The lighthouse is not viable or relevant Glasgow's way of life. Whoever has been running it needs to get a kick up the arse and a single way train ticket back to their Edinburgh arts ghetto.
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 2:03pm Wed 26 Nov 08
I don't pay taxes to keep all these noncy poncy arty farty lentil pie munching LGBT's in a cushy wee number. Give the weans a free lunch.
I don't pay taxes to keep all these noncy poncy arty farty lentil pie munching LGBT's in a cushy wee number. Give the weans a free lunch.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:03pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
Sorry , but i dont have any sympathy for The Lighthouse. It hasnt made any definite impact on improving glasgows culture or development. I actually went in their one time to do a nosey and i was made to feel inferior by some dafty art student wifey who was at the entrance supposedly being a "greeter" to the public. I would say that The lighthouse is not viable or relevant Glasgow's way of life. Whoever has been running it needs to get a kick up the arse and a single way train ticket back to their Edinburgh arts ghetto.[/quote] Why apologise Meep, constructive criticism could actually help to reverse their fortunes - there is a sheer amount of snobbery attached to this place and indeed other venues and facilties.
It has to change if they wish to attract a wider audience.
I'm surprised Johnny hasn't came on and said you have a chip as well.
The stoodint wifey... I was expecting you to say she was gorging on a Lentil Curry Pie and looking quite unattractive with Dame Edna Specs, half a skinhead, with the other half dyed purple and a suit jacket from the 80's with leather patches on the elbows.
Meep wrote:
Sorry , but i dont have any sympathy for The Lighthouse. It hasnt made any definite impact on improving glasgows culture or development. I actually went in their one time to do a nosey and i was made to feel inferior by some dafty art student wifey who was at the entrance supposedly being a "greeter" to the public. I would say that The lighthouse is not viable or relevant Glasgow's way of life. Whoever has been running it needs to get a kick up the arse and a single way train ticket back to their Edinburgh arts ghetto.
Why apologise Meep, constructive criticism could actually help to reverse their fortunes - there is a sheer amount of snobbery attached to this place and indeed other venues and facilties.
It has to change if they wish to attract a wider audience.
I'm surprised Johnny hasn't came on and said you have a chip as well.
The stoodint wifey... I was expecting you to say she was gorging on a Lentil Curry Pie and looking quite unattractive with Dame Edna Specs, half a skinhead, with the other half dyed purple and a suit jacket from the 80's with leather patches on the elbows.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:06pm Wed 26 Nov 08
For once, I've got to agree with aspects of the above posting. One thing about the Lighthouse is that it really isn't user friendly. You can't - as Meep says - just wander in for a nosey. That's no way to encourage interest in architecture and design - or anything really.
It's a cracking place (and space) but if it's not fulfilling its role adequately, why not investigate alternative uses?
For once, I've got to agree with aspects of the above posting. One thing about the Lighthouse is that it really isn't user friendly. You can't - as Meep says - just wander in for a nosey. That's no way to encourage interest in architecture and design - or anything really.
It's a cracking place (and space) but if it's not fulfilling its role adequately, why not investigate alternative uses?
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 2:38pm Wed 26 Nov 08
How can something be a beacon of architectural excellence when: (a) it takes 10 minutes to get to the useful bit of the building via all those escalators only to discover there's very little there; and (b) it is built around on practicall all sides other than a narrow lane and a dead end so it's almost impossible to get a good look at it?
And I've been to a function in there. It was dire. Anyway, we shouldn't be subsidising arts venues to provide competition to city centre hotels, they should be promoting the arts!
All in all this is one project which should never have got off the drawing board.
How can something be a beacon of architectural excellence when: (a) it takes 10 minutes to get to the useful bit of the building via all those escalators only to discover there's very little there; and (b) it is built around on practicall all sides other than a narrow lane and a dead end so it's almost impossible to get a good look at it?
And I've been to a function in there. It was dire. Anyway, we shouldn't be subsidising arts venues to provide competition to city centre hotels, they should be promoting the arts!
All in all this is one project which should never have got off the drawing board.
Posted by: Brad on 2:50pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote]this is one project which should never have got off the drawing board[/quote] Have to disagree there - it just needed to be done properly.
Architecture and design is important to everyone but there's very little attempt to explain or engage. Look at what's been done to our city in the past few decades (and is still happening - Clyde Waterfront, etc), with very little public debate or dissent - partly because people don't feel they can comment.
There's more of a need for a place like this in Glasgwo than in Edinburgh too - Auld Reekie is mostly concerned with fossilising itself and there are plenty vocal middle-class types to make their contribution heard. Over here, there's much more change, and much less debate.
this is one project which should never have got off the drawing board
Have to disagree there - it just needed to be done properly.
Architecture and design is important to everyone but there's very little attempt to explain or engage. Look at what's been done to our city in the past few decades (and is still happening - Clyde Waterfront, etc), with very little public debate or dissent - partly because people don't feel they can comment.
There's more of a need for a place like this in Glasgwo than in Edinburgh too - Auld Reekie is mostly concerned with fossilising itself and there are plenty vocal middle-class types to make their contribution heard. Over here, there's much more change, and much less debate.
Posted by: fringebhoy, EAST KILBRIDE on 4:02pm Wed 26 Nov 08
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 4:10pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]fringebhoy[/bold] wrote:
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??[/quote] Well I went to a traditional ceilidh organised by a charity at St Andrews Square recently which consisted of the band leader shouting at the set of novice dancers, referring to them as the 'remedial set', ordering them to the front of the church hall in front of the musicians and generally humiliating them.
I imagine with a contemporary ceilidh, they will be more appreciative of, and sensitive to, differences...
fringebhoy wrote:
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??
Well I went to a traditional ceilidh organised by a charity at St Andrews Square recently which consisted of the band leader shouting at the set of novice dancers, referring to them as the 'remedial set', ordering them to the front of the church hall in front of the musicians and generally humiliating them.
I imagine with a contemporary ceilidh, they will be more appreciative of, and sensitive to, differences...
Posted by: Harry, Glasgow on 4:35pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]fringebhoy[/bold] wrote:
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??[/quote] Your contemporary celidh is probably just a Mamma Mia karaoke in Gaelic.
fringebhoy wrote:
My work is having its christmas night out there this year.... SO maybe its changing its ways.... Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??
Your contemporary celidh is probably just a Mamma Mia karaoke in Gaelic.
Posted by: Brad on 4:57pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote]Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??[/quote] The Gay Gordons might not be what you expect.
Although a contemporary celidh does still sound quite pretentious!!! DOes anyone even know what that is??
The Gay Gordons might not be what you expect.
Posted by: JC on 5:08pm Wed 26 Nov 08
The lighthouse can be a good venue for exhibitions, but I feel put off going into it. It's not user friendly, and neither are some of the staff. It also needs to sort out what it's about and attract visitors. It's in the busiest part of Glasgow!
The lighthouse can be a good venue for exhibitions, but I feel put off going into it. It's not user friendly, and neither are some of the staff. It also needs to sort out what it's about and attract visitors. It's in the busiest part of Glasgow!
Posted by: laurah, Glasgow on 8:26pm Wed 26 Nov 08
lots of good comments. think the problem is that it is run by arty farty types that dont have a head for business. For example, how on did they manage to go £100k over budget for the venice appearence? If you have a budget you have to stick with it or you go broke! Its not that hard!!!
I love the ligthouse, its a great space and a really enjoyabl place to visit. However, it never kept up the momentum up with which its started. When it was launched, there was monthly publicity booklets letting people know what was going on.
Also I dont think the layout is paticularily good, especially from a commercial stance. For example, why is the cafe on the top floor? Or the best bit of the shop hidden away on the first floor? Its more like an office building than a gallery. I cant understand why the unit on mitchell lane thats now bar soba wasnt part of the lighthouse.
The people that run it are bloody lucky to be in a job today. I bet they will be pretty reluctant to change and it will only be a matter of time until we are in this situation again. They need to start thinking as much about money as they do about the exhibitions they put on, many of which are excellent. Its public money and needs to be respected.
lots of good comments. think the problem is that it is run by arty farty types that dont have a head for business. For example, how on did they manage to go £100k over budget for the venice appearence? If you have a budget you have to stick with it or you go broke! Its not that hard!!!
I love the ligthouse, its a great space and a really enjoyabl place to visit. However, it never kept up the momentum up with which its started. When it was launched, there was monthly publicity booklets letting people know what was going on.
Also I dont think the layout is paticularily good, especially from a commercial stance. For example, why is the cafe on the top floor? Or the best bit of the shop hidden away on the first floor? Its more like an office building than a gallery. I cant understand why the unit on mitchell lane thats now bar soba wasnt part of the lighthouse.
The people that run it are bloody lucky to be in a job today. I bet they will be pretty reluctant to change and it will only be a matter of time until we are in this situation again. They need to start thinking as much about money as they do about the exhibitions they put on, many of which are excellent. Its public money and needs to be respected.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:56pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][italic]I would also agree with Brad and TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people.[/[/italic] quote]
Anytime I have ever had the misfortune to go into the Lighthouse, a bit like the G.O.M.A. it is far more elite in its clientelle / custom base. It's exhibitions are obscure to say the least, and it is far from the first place I would rush to take any tourist.
The Lighthouse needs to seriously re-think what kind of exhibitions it is going to hold in future, to please a far wider audience.
And if it needs to shift it's ethos, or objectives in what it wants to achieve then so be it. But in times like this, when money is tight, and people are thinking of other things to be doing - really The Lighthouse needs to be far more pleasing, interesting, tasteful, and desireable to all kinds of people, not just the arty farty students, and architecturally minded people.
I can't even remember the last time I ever saw any leaflets, or marketing info for The Lighthouse in any local libraries etc. if it can't even market / sell itself, is it any wonder it's in the financial dire straits it is ?
I would also agree with Brad and TMC that The Lighthouse doesn't make much effort to appeal to many people.
Anytime I have ever had the misfortune to go into the Lighthouse, a bit like the G.O.M.A. it is far more elite in its clientelle / custom base. It's exhibitions are obscure to say the least, and it is far from the first place I would rush to take any tourist.
The Lighthouse needs to seriously re-think what kind of exhibitions it is going to hold in future, to please a far wider audience.
And if it needs to shift it's ethos, or objectives in what it wants to achieve then so be it. But in times like this, when money is tight, and people are thinking of other things to be doing - really The Lighthouse needs to be far more pleasing, interesting, tasteful, and desireable to all kinds of people, not just the arty farty students, and architecturally minded people.
I can't even remember the last time I ever saw any leaflets, or marketing info for The Lighthouse in any local libraries etc. if it can't even market / sell itself, is it any wonder it's in the financial dire straits it is ?
Posted by: whiskyjack, Tyne and Wear on 9:45pm Wed 26 Nov 08
Lentil Curry Pies???? Bound to put the wind up someone there eh? :o)
Lentil Curry Pies???? Bound to put the wind up someone there eh? :o)
Posted by: I Predict A Riot, Glasgow on 10:44pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[italic]And the cost of mounting Scotland's first appearance at an architecture event in Venice cost £100,000 more than the £250,000 it had received from the Scottish Government and other sources.
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Did they forget to allow money for the stilts:-)
And the cost of mounting Scotland's first appearance at an architecture event in Venice cost £100,000 more than the £250,000 it had received from the Scottish Government and other sources.
Did they forget to allow money for the stilts:-)
Posted by: Stereotypical Glaswegian, Glasgow on 11:27pm Wed 26 Nov 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
[italic]Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies![/italic]
Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"[/quote] Sorry Johnny but I don't fully understand the purpose of your post.
Like yourself I have worked in the arts in Glasgow for many years.
The misuse of funds by arty cliques is 99% of what arts funding is all about.
I know of dozens and dozens of instances I have personally witnessed. Many more I have heard about.
Using funds to host their own exhibitions, mount lavish opening parties at expensive venues (and forgetting to invite any people from the area the funding covers), A Scottish Arts Council funding committee that funded five trips to Japan for the daughter of one of its members, and continues to fund her to this day.
Arts funding should be much more open.
It stinks to high heavens.
Arts organisation, groups and companies need to make themselves much more approachable, open, useful and popular.
No further funding should be provided to any group when they do not engage the public in vast numbers.
Arts funding from the public purse makes the public the client.
Only employ people who can enthuse and encourage the great unwashed to come through the doors and expose themselves to the best the word has to offer. Promoting local people to be seen and appreciated by the world in return.
(Isn't that the point of public money being spent on the arts?)
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
Yes Brad, that was my point - no chips (whatever that's meant to mean) maybe Johnny above is right into having a fake laugh and talking utter shoite with some of these nonces whilst eating Lentil Curry Pies!
Why would you want to take chips into an exhibition venue? And in what sense are people who eat lentil curry pies, or whatever, "nonces?"
Sorry Johnny but I don't fully understand the purpose of your post.
Like yourself I have worked in the arts in Glasgow for many years.
The misuse of funds by arty cliques is 99% of what arts funding is all about.
I know of dozens and dozens of instances I have personally witnessed. Many more I have heard about.
Using funds to host their own exhibitions, mount lavish opening parties at expensive venues (and forgetting to invite any people from the area the funding covers), A Scottish Arts Council funding committee that funded five trips to Japan for the daughter of one of its members, and continues to fund her to this day.
Arts funding should be much more open.
It stinks to high heavens.
Arts organisation, groups and companies need to make themselves much more approachable, open, useful and popular.
No further funding should be provided to any group when they do not engage the public in vast numbers.
Arts funding from the public purse makes the public the client.
Only employ people who can enthuse and encourage the great unwashed to come through the doors and expose themselves to the best the word has to offer. Promoting local people to be seen and appreciated by the world in return.
(Isn't that the point of public money being spent on the arts?)
Posted by: Glasgow Avenger, Glasgow on 6:50pm Thu 27 Nov 08
I'd like to point out that the lighthouse is also part of Mackintosh's Glasgow legacy, a legacy which Glasgow city council and the tourist board take for granted, we do get a lot of tourists visiting Glasgow becuase of Mackintosh, and you'll find that most of the Mackintosh venues in Glasgow have very little or no funding from the city council, this excludes Scotland Street and Kelvingrove.
I'd like to point out that the lighthouse is also part of Mackintosh's Glasgow legacy, a legacy which Glasgow city council and the tourist board take for granted, we do get a lot of tourists visiting Glasgow becuase of Mackintosh, and you'll find that most of the Mackintosh venues in Glasgow have very little or no funding from the city council, this excludes Scotland Street and Kelvingrove.
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