Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 11:04am Mon 8 Dec 08
Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"
Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"
Posted by: steven1986, .. on 12:05pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]wild wadi[/bold] wrote:
Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"[/quote] I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you??
Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.
wild wadi wrote:
Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"
I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you??
Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:18pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]steven1986[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wild wadi[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"[/quote] I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you?? Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.[/quote] Ah'll drink tae that!!
steven1986 wrote:
wild wadi wrote: Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"
I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you?? Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.
Ah'll drink tae that!!
Posted by: Albannach, Miami on 1:12pm Mon 8 Dec 08
Yes,by all means keep drunk drivers off the roads.It also helps the "crime figures" look good on an easy pinch.What about trying harder on "REAL" crime against the person and property? Sorry,I just do NOT have any confidence in the Bumbling Police Force when it comes to combatting the real toerags.
Yes,by all means keep drunk drivers off the roads.It also helps the "crime figures" look good on an easy pinch.What about trying harder on "REAL" crime against the person and property? Sorry,I just do NOT have any confidence in the Bumbling Police Force when it comes to combatting the real toerags.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 1:37pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]Albannach[/bold] wrote:
Yes,by all means keep drunk drivers off the roads.It also helps the "crime figures" look good on an easy pinch.What about trying harder on "REAL" crime against the person and property? Sorry,I just do NOT have any confidence in the Bumbling Police Force when it comes to combatting the real toerags.[/quote] My biggest problem is that amongst other things, I run the odd load of scrap metal in for recycling.
This tends to acrue from stuff that I buy in "job lots" which is either, to use a technical term, gubbed, or otherwise unsellable (is that a real word?).
Anyway, the police will use that as an excuse to stop MAINLY working class drivers, so that they can have a look in the back of vans. Happens every year.
So far this year I have had a "routine" stop 23 times in the van, which is 8 years old.
Compare that to ZERO stops in my 19 year old banger (sorry, car) over the same period, and you`ll see what I mean.
I do approximately the same milage in each vehicle per year.
A couple of years ago Central Police completely emptied my van to check for "possible stolen goods". The fact that everything was marked STRATHCLYDE POLICE didn`t seem to bother them ........ it had just been purchased from their lost and found auction!!!!!!!
They wouldn`t even let me get into my own van to show them the invoice!!!!!
Ahh nothing like intelligent police work to fill you with confidence in them!!!!!
Albannach wrote:
Yes,by all means keep drunk drivers off the roads.It also helps the "crime figures" look good on an easy pinch.What about trying harder on "REAL" crime against the person and property? Sorry,I just do NOT have any confidence in the Bumbling Police Force when it comes to combatting the real toerags.
My biggest problem is that amongst other things, I run the odd load of scrap metal in for recycling.
This tends to acrue from stuff that I buy in "job lots" which is either, to use a technical term, gubbed, or otherwise unsellable (is that a real word?).
Anyway, the police will use that as an excuse to stop MAINLY working class drivers, so that they can have a look in the back of vans. Happens every year.
So far this year I have had a "routine" stop 23 times in the van, which is 8 years old.
Compare that to ZERO stops in my 19 year old banger (sorry, car) over the same period, and you`ll see what I mean.
I do approximately the same milage in each vehicle per year.
A couple of years ago Central Police completely emptied my van to check for "possible stolen goods". The fact that everything was marked STRATHCLYDE POLICE didn`t seem to bother them ........ it had just been purchased from their lost and found auction!!!!!!!
They wouldn`t even let me get into my own van to show them the invoice!!!!!
Ahh nothing like intelligent police work to fill you with confidence in them!!!!!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 2:38pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote]The fact that everything was marked STRATHCLYDE POLICE didn`t seem to bother them ........ it had just been purchased from their lost and found auction!!!!!!![/quote] Knowing their incompetence, it wouldn't even surprise me if stuff visibly marked "Strathclyde Police" had been nicked from one of their offices!!.. Sorry, I'd better retract that statement in case it leads to them becoming stressed again!!
The fact that everything was marked STRATHCLYDE POLICE didn`t seem to bother them ........ it had just been purchased from their lost and found auction!!!!!!!
Knowing their incompetence, it wouldn't even surprise me if stuff visibly marked "Strathclyde Police" had been nicked from one of their offices!!.. Sorry, I'd better retract that statement in case it leads to them becoming stressed again!!
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 2:40pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote]DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.[/quote] Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?
DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.
Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 2:46pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote]Any driver involved in a collision, even if it is caused by another driver, will be breath-tested.
In addition, any driver stopped for committing a traffic offence can also be asked to give a breath sample.[/quote]
This has always been the case and is nothing new. In fact, the Police can stop any vehicle which 'in their [bold]opinion[/bold] is being driven in a dangerous, reckless or suspect manner'.
Any driver involved in a collision, even if it is caused by another driver, will be breath-tested.
In addition, any driver stopped for committing a traffic offence can also be asked to give a breath sample.
This has always been the case and is nothing new. In fact, the Police can stop any vehicle which 'in their
opinion is being driven in a dangerous, reckless or suspect manner'.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 2:48pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]steven976[/bold] wrote:
[quote]DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.[/quote] Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?[/quote] What about stout drivers?
steven976 wrote:
DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.
Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?
What about stout drivers?
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 3:46pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]steven1986[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wild wadi[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"[/quote] I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you?? Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.[/quote] Who else is going to be driving early in the morning after a bevy? The man going to his work.
steven1986 wrote:
wild wadi wrote: Why don't they just come out and say " we'll be targeting the workin' man"
I fail to see how this is targeting the working man unless the police plan to ask you your occupation before deciding whether to arrest you?? Drink driving is not just a working man problem and i think it is a good thing that the police focus on this kind of thing around this time of year.
Who else is going to be driving early in the morning after a bevy? The man going to his work.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 4:39pm Mon 8 Dec 08
Wise One wrote::
What about stout drivers?
Kindly don't get personal, I consider myself to be of of generous construction
Wise One wrote::
What about stout drivers?
Kindly don't get personal, I consider myself to be of of generous construction
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 4:46pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]The Wise One[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]steven976[/bold] wrote: [quote]DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.[/quote] Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?[/quote] What about stout drivers?[/quote] I'm sorry!!.. I wasn't being discriminatory by intent!.. I simply forgot! And by the way all you slim people too.. I wasn't trying to discriminate against you either!!
The Wise One wrote:
steven976 wrote: DRIVERS who get behind the wheel the morning after a night of heavy drinking will be targeted in a road safety campaign.
Surely this is blatant discrimination? What about the lager-drinkers?.. The whisky/vodka/rum/G &T drinkers?.. Do they have an exemption from being breathalised?
What about stout drivers?
I'm sorry!!.. I wasn't being discriminatory by intent!.. I simply forgot! And by the way all you slim people too.. I wasn't trying to discriminate against you either!!
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 5:04pm Mon 8 Dec 08
I have to admit I find it hilarious that the annual drink drive blitz has been hijacked for a bit of fun.
Although there IS a serious side to this ahem cough "story", it seems almost word for word the same statement every year.
Personally I NEVER drink and drive. I ALWAYS pull over to the side of the road!!!! Bl00dy stuffs to expensive to spill these days.
Anyhoo, may all your breath tests be green this year folks.
I have to admit I find it hilarious that the annual drink drive blitz has been hijacked for a bit of fun.
Although there IS a serious side to this ahem cough "story", it seems almost word for word the same statement every year.
Personally I NEVER drink and drive. I ALWAYS pull over to the side of the road!!!! Bl00dy stuffs to expensive to spill these days.
Anyhoo, may all your breath tests be green this year folks.
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 5:21pm Mon 8 Dec 08
Remember the old one. Why did you drink and drive?
Cos ah wiz too drunk tae walk.
I think people are just fed up hearing about annual campaigns. If they were serious about drinking and driving there would be a lower limit and random testing and an immediate suspension of your licence.
Remember the old one. Why did you drink and drive?
Cos ah wiz too drunk tae walk.
I think people are just fed up hearing about annual campaigns. If they were serious about drinking and driving there would be a lower limit and random testing and an immediate suspension of your licence.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 5:33pm Mon 8 Dec 08
There already IS random testing and sometimes in the worst cases a suspension is ordered at the first court hearing.
However, personally, I think the limit is fine where it is.
It allows for a glass of wine with or without a meal on a day or an evening out.
There already IS random testing and sometimes in the worst cases a suspension is ordered at the first court hearing.
However, personally, I think the limit is fine where it is.
It allows for a glass of wine with or without a meal on a day or an evening out.
Posted by: bigeye, Shaws on 5:41pm Mon 8 Dec 08
Seem to remember the same old discussion last year and the year before and...
Why are personal breathylisers not available even if they are not 100% accurate at least they can give you a guide.
Interested to compare the stats on accidents between say 7am to 10am and 7pm and 10pm as the polis go for the easy catch.
Unit counting required but even that is not so simple as who remembers how many they had the night before!
Seem to remember the same old discussion last year and the year before and...
Why are personal breathylisers not available even if they are not 100% accurate at least they can give you a guide.
Interested to compare the stats on accidents between say 7am to 10am and 7pm and 10pm as the polis go for the easy catch.
Unit counting required but even that is not so simple as who remembers how many they had the night before!
Posted by: c u jimmy, glasgow on 5:42pm Mon 8 Dec 08
A few years back I was stopped by the polis who said I must be drunk because my car was waving about all over the road.Thank god for that says me I thought the steering was away.
A few years back I was stopped by the polis who said I must be drunk because my car was waving about all over the road.Thank god for that says me I thought the steering was away.
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 6:05pm Mon 8 Dec 08
you can actualy drink and drive just as long as you remember to carry your warrant card or can afford a loophole lawyer.
you can actualy drink and drive just as long as you remember to carry your warrant card or can afford a loophole lawyer.
Posted by: HOLY WILLIE, GLASGOW on 7:34pm Mon 8 Dec 08
The main cause of accidents on our roads is never mentioned ie women peering through little slits in their headgear dont know what mirrors are for,ignore red lights,are totally oblivious to other roadusers and obviously passed the driving test because their examiner was **** scared to fail them as he would automatically be accused of racism.Compared to them drunk drivers are no danger whatsoever.
The main cause of accidents on our roads is never mentioned ie women peering through little slits in their headgear dont know what mirrors are for,ignore red lights,are totally oblivious to other roadusers and obviously passed the driving test because their examiner was **** scared to fail them as he would automatically be accused of racism.Compared to them drunk drivers are no danger whatsoever.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 9:15pm Mon 8 Dec 08
[quote][bold]bigeye[/bold] wrote:
Seem to remember the same old discussion last year and the year before and... Why are personal breathylisers not available even if they are not 100% accurate at least they can give you a guide. Interested to compare the stats on accidents between say 7am to 10am and 7pm and 10pm as the polis go for the easy catch. Unit counting required but even that is not so simple as who remembers how many they had the night before![/quote] £97 in any BMW dealership
bigeye wrote:
Seem to remember the same old discussion last year and the year before and... Why are personal breathylisers not available even if they are not 100% accurate at least they can give you a guide. Interested to compare the stats on accidents between say 7am to 10am and 7pm and 10pm as the polis go for the easy catch. Unit counting required but even that is not so simple as who remembers how many they had the night before!
£97 in any BMW dealership
Posted by: bobrus, Glasgow on 10:41pm Tue 9 Dec 08
Go for a night out, leave the car, pick it up next morning when you`ve sobered up. You may still be over the limit, but fact is, you are SOBER. Target the people who leave the pub and drive, they are the real culprits.
Go for a night out, leave the car, pick it up next morning when you`ve sobered up. You may still be over the limit, but fact is, you are SOBER. Target the people who leave the pub and drive, they are the real culprits.