Posted by: John, Glasgow on 11:20am Wed 7 Jan 09
Is it still the case that one of the criteria for the sighting of a fire station is based upon the value of the property in the area rather than the number of people in the area?
Is it still the case that one of the criteria for the sighting of a fire station is based upon the value of the property in the area rather than the number of people in the area?
Posted by: John, Glasgow on 11:23am Wed 7 Jan 09
Sighting? OOps! Can't spell. Sorry folks.
Sighting? OOps! Can't spell. Sorry folks.
Posted by: qwerty, sunny glasgow on 11:28am Wed 7 Jan 09
yes all part of mr sweeneys money saving fire brigade, bet he wont be looking at closing clarkston or milngavie, to much money flying about there,
yes all part of mr sweeneys money saving fire brigade, bet he wont be looking at closing clarkston or milngavie, to much money flying about there,
Posted by: Nevyn, Glasgow on 11:36am Wed 7 Jan 09
I cannot get over the absolute hypocrisy of the Lib Dems. At the last meeting of Glasgow City Council, Calton Councillor Alison Thewliss put up a motion on behalf of the SNP opposing the threatened closure and calling for the retention of Parkhead Fire Station. The Lib Dems opposed this in favour of a motion, backed by Labour, merely calling for all options to be looked at.
I cannot get over the absolute hypocrisy of the Lib Dems. At the last meeting of Glasgow City Council, Calton Councillor Alison Thewliss put up a motion on behalf of the SNP opposing the threatened closure and calling for the retention of Parkhead Fire Station. The Lib Dems opposed this in favour of a motion, backed by Labour, merely calling for all options to be looked at.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:20pm Wed 7 Jan 09
[quote][bold]That MSP[/bold] said:
Parts of this area are badly affected by drug and alcohol abuse problems, as well as poverty and high unemployment.[/quote]
Well this is an excellent opportunity for the denizens of those areas to take less drugs and less alcohol. Then we'll all be safer and the affected people wil be more able to get jobs like rhe rest of us.
That MSP said:
Parts of this area are badly affected by drug and alcohol abuse problems, as well as poverty and high unemployment.
Well this is an excellent opportunity for the denizens of those areas to take less drugs and less alcohol. Then we'll all be safer and the affected people wil be more able to get jobs like rhe rest of us.
Posted by: Darren Wood, Glasgow on 1:13pm Wed 7 Jan 09
Why is there no coverage of the Colin Deans story in the ET. Has this been censored as being too embarrasing for their labour masters.
Why is there no coverage of the Colin Deans story in the ET. Has this been censored as being too embarrasing for their labour masters.
Posted by: pete, Bearsden on 3:28pm Wed 7 Jan 09
Trying to figure out the connection between drug users and the fire brigade - unless of course the users spontaneously self-combust, especially if they've been drinking meths but there again, I don't suppose that's a drug.
Trying to figure out the connection between drug users and the fire brigade - unless of course the users spontaneously self-combust, especially if they've been drinking meths but there again, I don't suppose that's a drug.
Posted by: Alison A., Clydebank on 5:11pm Wed 7 Jan 09
These meddling lib dems should do their homework before interfering in matters they know nothing about.
What do you think happens if Parkhead fire station is busy attending a fire call and another call comes in for the Parkhead area? They send the next closest fire engine - that's what happens. How many times have you heard of the public safety being endangered because of such a situation occurring (which is a regular event)? NONE!
These meddling lib dems should do their homework before interfering in matters they know nothing about.
What do you think happens if Parkhead fire station is busy attending a fire call and another call comes in for the Parkhead area? They send the next closest fire engine - that's what happens. How many times have you heard of the public safety being endangered because of such a situation occurring (which is a regular event)? NONE!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:29pm Wed 7 Jan 09
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned!
What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.
The other issue is the cost of running such buildings, however we cannot put a price on the loss of lives, or perhaps The Strathclyde Fire and Rescue chief officer can.
Ultimately our Fire & Rescue staff save lives, and a Fire Station is a key requirement to any community. Why can't we see a compromise where the existing station is kept on as well, but with retained, instead of wholetime staff.
Surely, we can never have too many Fire & Rescue staff / stations, or emergency service staff.
As too many is clearly never enough, as people are still dying.
Those who sign the paperwork to finalise any such decisions should ask themselves this.....
Do they live in the Parkhead area, and would they rest easy at night, if they knew their local Fire & Rescue Station was closing ?
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned!
What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.
The other issue is the cost of running such buildings, however we cannot put a price on the loss of lives, or perhaps The Strathclyde Fire and Rescue chief officer can.
Ultimately our Fire & Rescue staff save lives, and a Fire Station is a key requirement to any community. Why can't we see a compromise where the existing station is kept on as well, but with retained, instead of wholetime staff.
Surely, we can never have too many Fire & Rescue staff / stations, or emergency service staff.
As too many is clearly never enough, as people are still dying.
Those who sign the paperwork to finalise any such decisions should ask themselves this.....
Do they live in the Parkhead area, and would they rest easy at night, if they knew their local Fire & Rescue Station was closing ?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:48pm Wed 7 Jan 09
[quote][quote]People Power[/quote] said:
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.[/quote]
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable drunks-in-Parkhead-w
anting-to-fry-chips community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
People Power
said:
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable drunks-in-Parkhead-w
anting-to-fry-chips community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:50pm Wed 7 Jan 09
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] said:[/quote]
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.[/quote]
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable [italic]"drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips"[/italic] community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
People Power said:
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable
"drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips" community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:50pm Wed 7 Jan 09
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] said:
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.[/quote]
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable [italic]"drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips"[/italic] community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
People Power said:
Any plans for the closure of a Fire Station, just as with School closures, hospital closures etc has to be seriously questioned! What we are finding is clearly, the value of the land these buildings are on is one major issue.
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable
"drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips" community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:51pm Wed 7 Jan 09
Got it right at last!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:21pm Wed 7 Jan 09
Shame this forum has no means of posters editing their posts once placed, as it would save alot of wasted time having to fix / correct the mistakes / spelling errors!
Shame this forum has no means of posters editing their posts once placed, as it would save alot of wasted time having to fix / correct the mistakes / spelling errors!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:27pm Wed 7 Jan 09
[quote]People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable "drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips" community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.[/quote]
As for whether or not it is my role to educate the apathetic, and setin their ways public of Parkhead, or anywhere else in the East End, I hardly think that is what this article is about.
If it is down to anyone, it is the stores who sell the thermostatically controlled chippans to promote them better. As well as more effort made by the Fire & Rescue Services to highlight the dangers of "Chip Pan Fires" in their Public demostrations given at public events etc....
Whether the people of Parkhead deserve any less treatment, provision, frontline service, or education is down to each persons interpretation - but personally how people choose to live their lives should not decide whether they are any more or less worthwhile in educating / rescueing.
People Power, land in Parkhead has no value. It's Parkhead.
You can have too many buildings and assets, you know. Money diverted from an operational budget to maintain buildings that have no use is money wasted. It looks as if Mr Sweeney has concluded he can achieve greatest efficiency and front-line focus through his proposals. Certainly it's relatively bad news for the important and vulnerable "drunks in Parkhead wanting to fry chips" community, but good news for the rest of us. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you go and lecture them about safer and healthier living? They'd like that, I'm sure.
As for whether or not it is my role to educate the apathetic, and setin their ways public of Parkhead, or anywhere else in the East End, I hardly think that is what this article is about.
If it is down to anyone, it is the stores who sell the thermostatically controlled chippans to promote them better. As well as more effort made by the Fire & Rescue Services to highlight the dangers of "Chip Pan Fires" in their Public demostrations given at public events etc....
Whether the people of Parkhead deserve any less treatment, provision, frontline service, or education is down to each persons interpretation - but personally how people choose to live their lives should not decide whether they are any more or less worthwhile in educating / rescueing.
Posted by: Kevfire, Glasgow on 2:09pm Thu 8 Jan 09
There are a lot of people on here with opinions based on nothing more than predudice and misinformed ideas (Johnny Punchclock, & Alison A). As a firefighter with more that 25 years experience I feel Iam more than qualified to comment.
Parkhead fire station answers approximately 1500 '999' calls every year and Cambuslang Fire station answers around 1600. If they amalgamate both of the stations, all of the calls together still have to be answered. If for example I live in Cambuslang and require the fire service, the local fire engine will be not available 1500 times as they are answering Parkhead fire stations calls and vis versa.
Yes its true Alsion C. when the local fire engine is out answering another call they send the next nearest one, but what are you not getting about this Cambuslang is the next nearest fire engine to Parkhead and it will not be available. So it will inevitably lead to increased attendance times.
AS for the predudiced views of Johnny no brain Punchclock. The Fire Service just like any public service is there for everyone, even the 'drunks and chip frying community' of parkhead as you so empty headedly put it. (watch out for a credit crunch near you ! you could so easily end up in this unfortunate situation. So there but for the grace of god, etc.)
The amalgamation of these 2 fire stations in my opinion is a financially based decision and will lead to a reduction of firefighters and fire cover. Ask yourself this. Will your council tax be reduced as a result ? I think I know the answer to that one. NO! Its just another example of paying more to receive less.
Why is it that more Nurses, Teachers, Police officers etc. is a good thing ! But more firefighters is a bad thing !
There are a lot of people on here with opinions based on nothing more than predudice and misinformed ideas (Johnny Punchclock, & Alison A). As a firefighter with more that 25 years experience I feel Iam more than qualified to comment.
Parkhead fire station answers approximately 1500 '999' calls every year and Cambuslang Fire station answers around 1600. If they amalgamate both of the stations, all of the calls together still have to be answered. If for example I live in Cambuslang and require the fire service, the local fire engine will be not available 1500 times as they are answering Parkhead fire stations calls and vis versa.
Yes its true Alsion C. when the local fire engine is out answering another call they send the next nearest one, but what are you not getting about this Cambuslang is the next nearest fire engine to Parkhead and it will not be available. So it will inevitably lead to increased attendance times.
AS for the predudiced views of Johnny no brain Punchclock. The Fire Service just like any public service is there for everyone, even the 'drunks and chip frying community' of parkhead as you so empty headedly put it. (watch out for a credit crunch near you ! you could so easily end up in this unfortunate situation. So there but for the grace of god, etc.)
The amalgamation of these 2 fire stations in my opinion is a financially based decision and will lead to a reduction of firefighters and fire cover. Ask yourself this. Will your council tax be reduced as a result ? I think I know the answer to that one. NO! Its just another example of paying more to receive less.
Why is it that more Nurses, Teachers, Police officers etc. is a good thing ! But more firefighters is a bad thing !
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