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Six years on and no sign of Selfridges
 
 
The area could be landscaped if no work is started soon
The area could be landscaped if no work is started soon
 
Gordon Matheson is frustrated by the lack of progress at the eyesore site
Gordon Matheson is frustrated by the lack of progress at the eyesore site
 
There are no immediate plans for the site leaving it in a similar situation to the Odeon, which we reported in Saturday's Evening Times
There are no immediate plans for the site leaving it in a similar situation to the Odeon, which we reported in Saturday's Evening Times
 

by Graeme Murray

RETAIL giant Selfridges has admitted there are no immediate plans to build its long-awaited store in Glasgow.

Bosses at the upmarket store today said an announcement on redeveloping the Merchant City site earmarked for the shop was "not imminent".

And council leaders, who held talks with the store again last week, accept the economic downturn means hopes of the store going ahead soon have been dashed.

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Instead they are resigned to looking at "environmental improvements" to the eyesore gap site, including demolishing buildings and landscaping the area.

Today's new blow to the Selfridges development comes after years of hopes that the prestigious development - seen as the icing on the cake for Glasgow's reputation for shopping - was about to go ahead.

In 2007 and 2008 reports suggested Selfridges was on the verge of submitting a detailed planning application for the former Goldbergs site. Other reports strongly hinted an architect had been appointed.

But more than six years after the firm first bought the majority share of the site, no work has started on the semi-derelict piece of land.

And store bosses have never submitted plans to the council.

It's now feared the scheme may never get off the ground because of the credit crisis and banks' reluctance to lend cash to developers.

On Saturday the Evening Times told how plans for the development of the former Odeon cinema in Renfield Street, which closed three years ago, had been ditched because the firm behind the venture couldn't get money from the bank.

Selfridges insisted its plans would be progressed, but declined to give any timescale.

A store spokeswoman said today: "We have no further update on Glasgow. We own the freehold for 90% of the Trongate site. If we conclude it is financially viable to open a store in Glasgow, we will do it - but an announcement is not imminent."

Councillor George Ryan, executive member for development and regeneration, said: "The council continues to be in regular contact with Selfridges and is aware that, while the development of the site may still be some way off due to the current economic climate, it remains part of their long-term development programme.

"Recent discussions are currently focusing on the development of a short-term environmental improvement programme for the site which could include some demolition works and temporary landscaping."

Gordon Matheson, whose ward includes the site, added: "I share the frustration felt about the empty Selfridges site. I am confident everything within the council's powers is being done behind the scenes to try to encourage and cajole Selfridges to bring forward a proposal and I am still optimistic Selfridges will open a store in Glasgow. The question is, when?"

Selfridges first announced plans for a £90million store in October 2002 and said 1000 jobs would be created.

Council chiefs have repeatedly held talks with the retail giant, travelling to London to meet Selfridges bosses in an attempt to persuade them to kick-start the scheme.

Experts say the 200,000sq ft store is vital for the regeneration of the Merchant City.

Glasgow SNP MSP Sandra White said: "They've had the site so long now and have been contacted and asked what their plans are.

"This is the linchpin of the Merchant City's regeneration plans but they are behaving like an absentee landlords.

"They have to come clean and let us know what they are doing with the site."

Council insiders say there is little the authority can do to encourage Selfridges to speed up the scheme.

They are unable to use compulsory purchase powers to buy the land because it would cost around £20million. Even if they did have the cash, they would need to have an alternative plan for the site.

Mr Matheson said: "If there was an alternative developer then I would be pushing for Selfridges to develop or sell but I fear that in the current climate we have little choice other than to keep talking to Selfridges, remain patient and ensure that the site is safely maintained in the meantime."

Publication date 13/01/09

Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:20am Tue 13 Jan 09
The Council are hanging on to this one like some guy hanging off a cliff with one hand wi a pair of itchy bawsacks.

Can they not think of anything else and just scrub this mob who keep playing a cat and mouse game.

A major part of town that has been lying largely redundant since the 1980's - its nuts, but its not uncommon for Glasgow either.

What about a Civic Squae plan? - a Glass covered arcade style street much like the one in Leeds with shops and flats - Covent Garden Style?

Something will have to give because its obvious Selfridges aren't interested and with recent the financial madness, thats even more of an excuse to ditch it altogether and move on to something else.



Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:21am Tue 13 Jan 09
A 'pair of itchy bawsacks'? Four baws. Ye sure?
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 11:39am Tue 13 Jan 09
This time next year the headline will be"The Jumeirah Group have joined a long list of companies who've....blah blah blah

That's if these stories are still newsworthy.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:42am Tue 13 Jan 09
Pete wrote:
A 'pair of itchy bawsacks'? Four baws. Ye sure?
Naw just two Pistol Pete - sorry - I wrote that in haste, just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed, the job I was doing was pathetic - one of the worst jobs I've ever had and it isn't anything relevant to what I'm qualified to do either, so if anybody out there is looking for someone who has a degree in digital media, reply to this post.

Failing that it'll be yet another admin post as there seems to be no other jobs.

Of course there is jobs in hospitality, care work etc, but am I experienced? Am I qualified? No, so I can't do these jobs, even if common sense says you can do it, employers say you can't, been down this road since leaving school and so has many hundreds of people, possibly thousands.

As such, never had a permanent full time job, why? No employer will give me one, to avoid unemployment have to get a temp job - this city should be given a big sick note - cos the place is well sick!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:51am Tue 13 Jan 09
Pete wrote:
A 'pair of itchy bawsacks'? Four baws. Ye sure?
Here Pete - Two sacks equals a pair - well it was the last time I checked, unless you're telling me that you get two in the one sack - thought it was an individual sack for each baw lol ;-)

Posted by: darius23, Glasgow on 11:55am Tue 13 Jan 09
Instead of coming out with lame excuses about how the crunch has affected it. This is just convenient, they have had years to build it before the crunch and never bothered so why now? or in the future? As for the Jumeirah Group, i am pretty confident they will finsih the hotel. I doubt the even know what the credit crunch is. Ive always heard rumours Harvey Nicks is coming to Glasgow? Anyone any news on that?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:56am Tue 13 Jan 09
Anyway, back to the story.

Does anybody think that The Argyle International will NOT go ahead as Showwadiwadi is suggesting??

That would be bad news if it didn't it looks like a really nice hotel and much like the Trongate site, once known as smack Central, this site next to the Radisson could end up lying equally as long.

Even worse, that geek who owns the pawn shop could rake it in even more unless the council just fire in and pull down his building.

They could let Tesco demolish a building in Partick without permission, why not his sleazy wee pawnshop?
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 12:18pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Given the current economic climate is anybody surprised at this decision?
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 12:19pm Tue 13 Jan 09
In the current economic climate the council cannot blame Selfridges on being hesitant, that being said they have had six years. But what the council should do is figure out how long it would take to redevelop this site and give Selfridges some grace. Namely if it takes 2 years to build a store then say they have until 2011 so Selfidges can either build or sell so the site can be redeveloped in time for 2014.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:15pm Tue 13 Jan 09
The Missing City wrote:
Pete wrote: A 'pair of itchy bawsacks'? Four baws. Ye sure?
Here Pete - Two sacks equals a pair - well it was the last time I checked, unless you're telling me that you get two in the one sack - thought it was an individual sack for each baw lol ;-)
I always thought that one bag = two baws.

Y'know, this debate is probably more useful that another will they/won't they discussion about Selfridges. They won't.
Posted by: Brad on 1:20pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Sydney will be pleased
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 1:35pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Take a walk from the Trongate towards the city, the area on Argyle street reeks of no-go! Councillors please get oot ur motor vehicles and walk! No way any-one would agree for a spend of that amount of money. The Argyle street area requires investment, larger pavements one-way even system would help, higher rentals to chase away the poverty that is seen. New train station is that happening?
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 1:38pm Tue 13 Jan 09
leesome wrote:
Take a walk from the Trongate towards the city, the area on Argyle street reeks of no-go! Councillors please get oot ur motor vehicles and walk! No way any-one would agree for a spend of that amount of money. The Argyle street area requires investment, larger pavements one-way even system would help, higher rentals to chase away the poverty that is seen. New train station is that happening?
Parts of Sauchiehall Street are going the same way - empty shops and "pound" stores.
Posted by: CrackerG, Glasgow on 1:49pm Tue 13 Jan 09
......just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed....

Your employer was probably sick of all the time you spend online, commenting on news stories instead of working!!!!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:51pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Pete wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
Pete wrote: A 'pair of itchy bawsacks'? Four baws. Ye sure?
Here Pete - Two sacks equals a pair - well it was the last time I checked, unless you're telling me that you get two in the one sack - thought it was an individual sack for each baw lol ;-)
I always thought that one bag = two baws. Y'know, this debate is probably more useful that another will they/won't they discussion about Selfridges. They won't.
Yes, I analysed some graphic diagrams on some sites and Gray's Anatomy plates show exactly what you were thinking, so it seems its all in the bag now and not bags as previously thought.

Spare a thought for the council (who would normally say their hands are tied) at this moment in time.

How agonising must that be??? ;-)
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:55pm Tue 13 Jan 09
CrackerG wrote:
......just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed.... Your employer was probably sick of all the time you spend online, commenting on news stories instead of working!!!!
Your a Cracker, hence the tag

No work since November, people being re-deployed and heavily messed about - Union may be coming in and another strike may be on the cards - and that's how full time workers are being treated.

Think you should get a job working for The Daily Record, seein as you like to over indulge in sensationalist fabricated meningless nonsense with nothing to back up your claim ;-)
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 1:59pm Tue 13 Jan 09
darius23 wrote:
Instead of coming out with lame excuses about how the crunch has affected it. This is just convenient, they have had years to build it before the crunch and never bothered so why now? or in the future? As for the Jumeirah Group, i am pretty confident they will finsih the hotel. I doubt the even know what the credit crunch is. Ive always heard rumours Harvey Nicks is coming to Glasgow? Anyone any news on that?
I was in Dubai last June and again in October.The place has ground to a standstill.They are feeling the effects of this global recession although they won't admit it.Fortunately for them they have no welfare state so it won't affect them in the same way it will affect us.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:01pm Tue 13 Jan 09
The Missing City wrote:
CrackerG wrote: ......just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed.... Your employer was probably sick of all the time you spend online, commenting on news stories instead of working!!!!
Your a Cracker, hence the tag No work since November, people being re-deployed and heavily messed about - Union may be coming in and another strike may be on the cards - and that's how full time workers are being treated. Think you should get a job working for The Daily Record, seein as you like to over indulge in sensationalist fabricated meningless nonsense with nothing to back up your claim ;-)
meningless

That's meaningless, that as well as the dig courtesy of CrackerG

A rather lame attempt to undermine another poster online, gosh, this really must make some people's day - har har

You have to ask yourself one question "Do I feel Lucky??" Well, Do Ya Punk?
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 2:43pm Tue 13 Jan 09
This firmly belongs in the 'no sh1t Sherlock' file of news stories. (Does the ET publish anything these days which doesn't?)

Anyone who thought Selfridges would build on that site in the first place was an idiot, most probably employed by the council. There isn't a decent bit of retail space anywhere near it and since Selfridges acquired the site Argyle Street as a whole has plummeted downhill, especially at its eastern edge.

As for the 'regeneration of the Merchant City', it's hardly a slum to begin with and maybe something other than shops, bars and restaurants would help.

The site should indeed be landscaped and used as a public amenity which the Council would do well to manage out of large swathes of the city centre rather than just pimping out every square inch to shysters with half-assed 'property development' proposals.
Posted by: openmind, Glasgow on 2:46pm Tue 13 Jan 09
darius23 wrote:
Instead of coming out with lame excuses about how the crunch has affected it. This is just convenient, they have had years to build it before the crunch and never bothered so why now? or in the future? As for the Jumeirah Group, i am pretty confident they will finsih the hotel. I doubt the even know what the credit crunch is. Ive always heard rumours Harvey Nicks is coming to Glasgow? Anyone any news on that?
Harvey Nicks was supposed to be part of the Elphinstone development which has also hit the buffers. (I can hear Sydney Meriwether gloating as I speak....)

OK - this Selfridges lark was pie in the sky to begin with, but until such times when it eventually happens or someone else takes the site on, why the hell can't we get rid of the eyesore that is the Goldbergs building, and the council landscapes it or creates some sort of semi-decent public space in the meantime...?
Posted by: openmind, Glasgow on 2:49pm Tue 13 Jan 09
And another thing.....I seem to remember the Buchanan Galleries got scuppered by the 1990-92 recession and it didn't happen until the end of the decade.

So let's not write it off just yet.
Posted by: Thomas Donnelly, Gorbals on 2:53pm Tue 13 Jan 09
It is about time we clean out the City Chambers
the site should be taken of Selfreidge give them back the money they paid for it and redevelop it with the taxpayers money.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 2:56pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Who cares about Selfridges? Comet and Curry's sell fridges as well!
Posted by: lord haw haw, high court on 3:28pm Tue 13 Jan 09
Who the feck cares anymore,dont see wee S purcell making any coments on this hardly heard the we @rsehole for six month,get this load of use less bunch of thick retards out of the chambers and get me in,i would take all land of them and turn it into swing parks like we used to have and a bench to sit abd eat your greegs sausage roll
Posted by: CrackerG, Glasgow on 3:41pm Tue 13 Jan 09
The Missing City wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
CrackerG wrote: ......just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed.... Your employer was probably sick of all the time you spend online, commenting on news stories instead of working!!!!
Your a Cracker, hence the tag No work since November, people being re-deployed and heavily messed about - Union may be coming in and another strike may be on the cards - and that's how full time workers are being treated. Think you should get a job working for The Daily Record, seein as you like to over indulge in sensationalist fabricated meningless nonsense with nothing to back up your claim ;-)
meningless That's meaningless, that as well as the dig courtesy of CrackerG A rather lame attempt to undermine another poster online, gosh, this really must make some people's day - har har You have to ask yourself one question "Do I feel Lucky??" Well, Do Ya Punk?
Thanks for confirming my point.

(P.S. NOBODY asked about or wants to hear anything about your job, your strike (which I'm sure you are more than looking forward to), your union...... get it?!?!)

Numpty.

Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 3:45pm Tue 13 Jan 09
TMC.Sorry to hear about your job.

As for the story.I've been in the construction game for over 30 yrs. and I think I've seen it all.That's why (maybe?)I sound so pessamistic.I am surrounded by lots of boarded up flats that have been due to be demolished for years now. It doesn't look it's going to happen in the near future as the regeneration was dependant on a proportion of the new homes being sold.One of the other reasons developments will be held up is that employers will be watching to see how far labour costs go down.I think that's why the Scottish Exec. has told the bidders for HMP. Bishopbriggs LOL.have been told to bid again.

As for the wee pawnbroker, I think he'll be wishing he took the money.
Posted by: norrie, leicester on 4:05pm Tue 13 Jan 09
I was born and breed in Glasgow,i travel all over the world and of course the uk,and i can tell you Glasgow needs Selfridges if it wants to be up there with the other great cities of europe. Glasgow has a lot of shops but not the great shops that you need to be classed as a great shopping city.
Posted by: Helmut de Smegma, Glasgow on 4:23pm Tue 13 Jan 09
norrie wrote:
I was born and breed in Glasgow,i travel all over the world and of course the uk,and i can tell you Glasgow needs Selfridges if it wants to be up there with the other great cities of europe. Glasgow has a lot of shops but not the great shops that you need to be classed as a great shopping city.
What other "great shops" do we need?

Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:23pm Tue 13 Jan 09
CrackerG wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
CrackerG wrote: ......just been told my job finishes at the end of the month, so I will soon be unemployed.... Your employer was probably sick of all the time you spend online, commenting on news stories instead of working!!!!
Your a Cracker, hence the tag No work since November, people being re-deployed and heavily messed about - Union may be coming in and another strike may be on the cards - and that's how full time workers are being treated. Think you should get a job working for The Daily Record, seein as you like to over indulge in sensationalist fabricated meningless nonsense with nothing to back up your claim ;-)
meningless That's meaningless, that as well as the dig courtesy of CrackerG A rather lame attempt to undermine another poster online, gosh, this really must make some people's day - har har You have to ask yourself one question "Do I feel Lucky??" Well, Do Ya Punk?
Thanks for confirming my point. (P.S. NOBODY asked about or wants to hear anything about your job, your strike (which I'm sure you are more than looking forward to), your union...... get it?!?!) Numpty.
So you speak for everybody online?

Are you their Shop Steward? Their representative?

Thought Not ;-)

Hmm I thought there was a credit crunch going on, people being treated like something from a Cattle market, maybe not in your world according to your post.

So if anybody loses their job because of the nature of the Labour Market, its because they apparently spend their working time online all day according to your post.

OH, before I forget

I speak for many - you seem only to speak for yourself

PUNK!

Dafty into the bargain I'll say - and I don't need to use terms such as WE or NOBODY as I don't ever require people to speak on my behalf either.
Posted by: lord haw haw, high court on 4:27pm Tue 13 Jan 09
norrie wrote:
I was born and breed in Glasgow,i travel all over the world and of course the uk,and i can tell you Glasgow needs Selfridges if it wants to be up there with the other great cities of europe. Glasgow has a lot of shops but not the great shops that you need to be classed as a great shopping city.
Who the feck wants to pay over the odds to Selfridges???????Tel
l me where Selfridges is in europe,and tell me the great shops you need to be up their with the best?????or classed you sound like you work in poundland thats what you call class you get what you pay for
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 4:38pm Tue 13 Jan 09
This place used to be the second city of the Empire and the shipbuilding capital of the world. Now according to some the city's worth depends on whether or not we have a Selfridges. Pathetic.

Meanwhile the property/ construction industrial complex continues to market pointless projects as 'regeneration' as if to imply it's the be-all and end-all. (see also London 2012 etc.)
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:40pm Tue 13 Jan 09
wild wadi wrote:
TMC.Sorry to hear about your job. As for the story.I've been in the construction game for over 30 yrs. and I think I've seen it all.That's why (maybe?)I sound so pessamistic.I am surrounded by lots of boarded up flats that have been due to be demolished for years now. It doesn't look it's going to happen in the near future as the regeneration was dependant on a proportion of the new homes being sold.One of the other reasons developments will be held up is that employers will be watching to see how far labour costs go down.I think that's why the Scottish Exec. has told the bidders for HMP. Bishopbriggs LOL.have been told to bid again. As for the wee pawnbroker, I think he'll be wishing he took the money.
Wadi

While I resent some Tory Type suckers of the Penile attachment like Cracker G, who appears to make fun for himself of anybody who loses a job whether it be temp or permanent (maybe its a personal attack on me for some strange reason?? like I'm not entitled to opinionate on such matters) - it seems there is no logic to this forum because of this (no offence to those wishing to make sense) - regarding your post - yes I have grew seeing boarded-up property all across Glasgow - even during the so-called boom times for which development really only applied to the Central Business District and the efforts to revive open space left by our once glorious industrial past.

Elsewhere across Glasgow, most of these areas still look the same post-1997 - as you say boarded up homes, shop units etc

Who knows when these areas will actually receive a major physical renovation, if they ever will.

PS I will get another job, won't be a permanent one thats for sure, but if I am what CrackerG is claiming, I may not be so lucky haha

I AM DOOOOMED ;-)
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:00pm Tue 13 Jan 09
CrackerG wrote:

Thanks for confirming my point. (P.S. NOBODY asked about or wants to hear anything about your job, your strike (which I'm sure you are more than looking forward to), your union...... get it?!?!) Numpty.

So according to CrackerG, the PCS is full of numpty's

The biggest laugh is, because I am a temp, I had no obligation to be a member though the workers from many public bodies are being screwed - so Cracker G must have have problem with Low-Paid Public Sector Workers and Civil Servants while their bosses and directors earn huge sunms every year for doing next to nowt.

Nice one- I guess you'll be thinking that people who are represented by such a union are trash as you were thinking I was trash as you thought I was part of such a union.

Well PCS members work for.....

Aviation, including CAA, BAA and NATS, Commercial Sector Group,
Crown Prosecution Service,
Culture, Media and Sport Occupational Association,
Department for Children, Families and Schools,
Department for Communities and Local Government,
Department for Innovation Universities and Skills,
Department for Transport,
Department for Work and Pensions,
Environment, Food and rural affairs,
Forestry Commission,
General Government Offices,
Health and Safety Executive,
HM Revenue and Customs,
Home Office,
Identity and Passport Service (Where I work) but no longer cos the place is closing down - CrackerG - you are a super tit)
Justice Sector,
Land Registry,
Learning and Skills Council,
Metropolitan Police,
Ministry of Defence,
Ministry of Justice,
National Offender Management Service (NOMS),
Office for National Statistics,
Prison Service,
Public Sector group,
Regional Development Agencies,
Revenue and Customs,
Security Industry Authority (SIA)

So because I am losing my job because of National re-structuring, you still claim I am losing my job because I spend ALL day online?

Brilliant!

;-)
Posted by: wild wadi, kirkie on 5:30pm Tue 13 Jan 09
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/blogs/thereporters/
robertpeston/2009/01
/insurance_that_wors
ens_crunch.html

I lost my job years ago due to a witch hunt, sorry, restructuring.I paid over ten years union dues only for the union to stab me(and others) in the back.Anyway, TMC you might find the link above interesting as regards to my ever increasing pessamism.
Posted by: bobby pafarino, Glasgow on 5:33pm Tue 13 Jan 09
We dinna need a Selfridges, gi us a primark, I'll gee tae London if a want selfridges. Glesga cooncil getting above its station. They dont want us. End of.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:51pm Tue 13 Jan 09
wild wadi wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk /blogs/thereporters/ robertpeston/2009/01 /insurance_that_wors ens_crunch.html I lost my job years ago due to a witch hunt, sorry, restructuring.I paid over ten years union dues only for the union to stab me(and others) in the back.Anyway, TMC you might find the link above interesting as regards to my ever increasing pessamism.
Thanks Wadi

I'm not too fond of unions myself, hence I was sceptical and never joined but in some respects, there is a use for them - but not like the way it was during the 70's and 80's - were they really helping the workers?

My best mates dad is a Glasgow City Councillor and his pals in the GMB etc screwed my mate who was formely a Glasgow City Employee because he was standing up to management, his dad did nothing cos his pals are the union men who at the same time are either members of the labour party or they are actual Labour councillors or MSP's etc

Corruption creates pessimism Wadi

Don't let them get you down mate!
Posted by: AliCat, Glesga on 12:37pm Thu 15 Jan 09
I don't get it "They are unable to use compulsory purchase powers to buy the land because it would cost around £20million . Even if they did have the cash, they would need to have an alternative plan for the site" .
Who valued an empty brown field site in this city at THAT wad? My bro works for a commercial property agent, they are currently unable to rent, sell, lease, brown field sites within the city ... The city already has loads of brown field sites - Duke Street/Charing Cross/Argyle Street (Osborne Street car park is just a brown field site with an added 'all-you-can-steal' market for junkies), Eglington Street, etc... An alternative plan does NOT need to be viable, it just needs to exist (after all we have no idea how our future needs may change). This 'valuation' lets both sides weasel out of 'doing something', leaving a huge site vacant with the 2014 games not that far away ... (hint, hint,). Mind you the way things are going, financially, will we even be able to afford to keep the present levels of basic services - nevermind invest in what is an ambitious building and development program?
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