Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:45am Fri 25 Jan 08
David Crossan says Barrhed gets all the money
What is this story all about, or does he live under a rock?
I used to travel through Barrhead when I was younger, and I worked in Barrhead for a while shipping IBM components out to Europe - like most towns, small pockets are nice (usually the old bits but the post war stuff brings the place down to the standard of a dump and needs to be brough up to a standard which can be appreciated and enjoyed by all
I do agree that Tesco will rape the sh1t out of small traders, what's wrong with Silverburn, are Tesco trying to take over Scotland?
David Crossan says Barrhed gets all the money
What is this story all about, or does he live under a rock?
I used to travel through Barrhead when I was younger, and I worked in Barrhead for a while shipping IBM components out to Europe - like most towns, small pockets are nice (usually the old bits but the post war stuff brings the place down to the standard of a dump and needs to be brough up to a standard which can be appreciated and enjoyed by all
I do agree that Tesco will rape the sh1t out of small traders, what's wrong with Silverburn, are Tesco trying to take over Scotland?
Posted by: Stu, South Side Glasgow on 12:06pm Fri 25 Jan 08
Good to see things finally happening in Barrhead, long overdue and the college is most welcome. But not sure about the supermarket - Tesco takeover bid...
Good to see things finally happening in Barrhead, long overdue and the college is most welcome. But not sure about the supermarket - Tesco takeover bid...
Posted by: Heather, Barrhead on 12:29pm Fri 25 Jan 08
"We need to make sure the community is on board" - you can start by asking what they want, rather than telling them what will happen to them.
Anyone interested in learning more about the real issues currently present in the plans for Barrhead's regeneration (beyond this typical Evening Times puff piece) is welcome to attend the next meeting of Barrhead Business Forum on February 28 at 7 PM at the Gym on Robertson Street.
"We need to make sure the community is on board" - you can start by asking what they want, rather than telling them what will happen to them.
Anyone interested in learning more about the real issues currently present in the plans for Barrhead's regeneration (beyond this typical Evening Times puff piece) is welcome to attend the next meeting of Barrhead Business Forum on February 28 at 7 PM at the Gym on Robertson Street.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:57pm Fri 25 Jan 08
I try to be positive about these things but have to agree with previous posters and Mr Graham's voxpop. When "regeneration" starts with road widening and a new Tesco, that pretty much means sounds the death knell for the traditional town centre.
Tesco's great for your weekly messages but the hidden cost is a town centre of charity shops, bookies and boarded-up windows. Who will go there...? Well, this masterplan seems to be specifically aiming to attract the old, sick and the less-ambitious of our school-leavers while the healthy and wealthy speed past on their newly-widened road for the weekly shop down the road.
I fear this isn't "best practice" in regeneration...
I try to be positive about these things but have to agree with previous posters and Mr Graham's voxpop. When "regeneration" starts with road widening and a new Tesco, that pretty much means sounds the death knell for the traditional town centre.
Tesco's great for your weekly messages but the hidden cost is a town centre of charity shops, bookies and boarded-up windows. Who will go there...? Well, this masterplan seems to be specifically aiming to attract the old, sick and the less-ambitious of our school-leavers while the healthy and wealthy speed past on their newly-widened road for the weekly shop down the road.
I fear this isn't "best practice" in regeneration...
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:03pm Fri 25 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
I try to be positive about these things but have to agree with previous posters and Mr Graham's voxpop. When "regeneration" starts with road widening and a new Tesco, that pretty much means sounds the death knell for the traditional town centre. Tesco's great for your weekly messages but the hidden cost is a town centre of charity shops, bookies and boarded-up windows. Who will go there...? Well, this masterplan seems to be specifically aiming to attract the old, sick and the less-ambitious of our school-leavers while the healthy and wealthy speed past on their newly-widened road for the weekly shop down the road. I fear this isn't "best practice" in regeneration...[/quote] Fantastic statement Brad,
It's typical of these copycat identikit town centre models that are springing up which may in the end being - just one road and one shop (which seems to be a Tesco for some strange reason)
Hardly a busy town centre strategy!
Well done, but will anybody take note?
Brad wrote:
I try to be positive about these things but have to agree with previous posters and Mr Graham's voxpop. When "regeneration" starts with road widening and a new Tesco, that pretty much means sounds the death knell for the traditional town centre. Tesco's great for your weekly messages but the hidden cost is a town centre of charity shops, bookies and boarded-up windows. Who will go there...? Well, this masterplan seems to be specifically aiming to attract the old, sick and the less-ambitious of our school-leavers while the healthy and wealthy speed past on their newly-widened road for the weekly shop down the road. I fear this isn't "best practice" in regeneration...
Fantastic statement Brad,
It's typical of these copycat identikit town centre models that are springing up which may in the end being - just one road and one shop (which seems to be a Tesco for some strange reason)
Hardly a busy town centre strategy!
Well done, but will anybody take note?
Posted by: Better Barrhead, Barrhead on 3:35pm Fri 25 Jan 08
Hello, Gavin Russell here. I am a Regeneration Officer for East Renfrewshire Council and work predominantly on the Barrhead Town Centre project. If anybody is interested in the plans and would like some more in-depth information, please have a look over our website:
www.betterbarrhead.c
om
You will find details of all the projects involved in the regeneration initiative, read about the latest news stories and, on the Community Spaces page, find out about how you can get involved in shaping the future of the town.
Hello, Gavin Russell here. I am a Regeneration Officer for East Renfrewshire Council and work predominantly on the Barrhead Town Centre project. If anybody is interested in the plans and would like some more in-depth information, please have a look over our website:
www.betterbarrhead.c
om
You will find details of all the projects involved in the regeneration initiative, read about the latest news stories and, on the Community Spaces page, find out about how you can get involved in shaping the future of the town.
Posted by: kitkat, glasgow on 3:47pm Fri 25 Jan 08
i live in barrhead and i think it great that they are doing this. i cant wait for the college to open as im going to collage in a year or two so now i wont have far to travel
i live in barrhead and i think it great that they are doing this. i cant wait for the college to open as im going to collage in a year or two so now i wont have far to travel
Posted by: jamtim, scotland on 4:00pm Fri 25 Jan 08
[quote]Developers have submitted proposals to regenerate the former site of the old Nestle-owned Purina pet food complex, which closed down in 2005 with the loss of 200 jobs.
The derelict factory would be demolished to make way for 120 homes, a neighbourhood centre, a fast-food restaurant and a car showroom.[/quote]
I grew up in Barrhead, living there for 20years.
I can't help noting that within this article it was pointed out that people die at an earlier age in certain regions of the town. Of course this will reflect a higher rate of cardiovascular disease and other diseases related to lack of exercise, poor diet and inadequate housing.
This being the case why on earth is the proposed "regeneration" of this land [read degeneration] involve selling cars and a fast food joint? Totally idiot. Why not building another small gym (private/public) and a shop selling healthy food not deep fried pizza.
I think the developers of this need to talk to some modern thinkers... even the USA is developing towns around the concept of needing cycle paths and provision for exercise.
Developers have submitted proposals to regenerate the former site of the old Nestle-owned Purina pet food complex, which closed down in 2005 with the loss of 200 jobs.
The derelict factory would be demolished to make way for 120 homes, a neighbourhood centre, a fast-food restaurant and a car showroom.
I grew up in Barrhead, living there for 20years.
I can't help noting that within this article it was pointed out that people die at an earlier age in certain regions of the town. Of course this will reflect a higher rate of cardiovascular disease and other diseases related to lack of exercise, poor diet and inadequate housing.
This being the case why on earth is the proposed "regeneration" of this land involve selling cars and a fast food joint? Totally idiot. Why not building another small gym (private/public) and a shop selling healthy food not deep fried pizza.
I think the developers of this need to talk to some modern thinkers... even the USA is developing towns around the concept of needing cycle paths and provision for exercise.
Posted by: JohnD, Glasgow on 5:07pm Fri 25 Jan 08
Barrhead should be moved back into Renfrewshire and out of East Renfrewshire. Its a drain on East Renfrewshires money. The people on the other side of the damms are paying for Barrhead. Its a disgrace.
Barrhead should be moved back into Renfrewshire and out of East Renfrewshire. Its a drain on East Renfrewshires money. The people on the other side of the damms are paying for Barrhead. Its a disgrace.
Posted by: JohnD, Glasgow on 5:07pm Fri 25 Jan 08
Barrhead should be moved back into Renfrewshire and out of East Renfrewshire. Its a drain on East Renfrewshires money. The people on the other side of the damms are paying for Barrhead. Its a disgrace.
Barrhead should be moved back into Renfrewshire and out of East Renfrewshire. Its a drain on East Renfrewshires money. The people on the other side of the damms are paying for Barrhead. Its a disgrace.
Posted by: Bob, Glasgow on 8:29pm Fri 25 Jan 08
I'm tired of people criticising plans without bothering to research the detail of them. Does anybody seriously believe that Barrhead can do without this substantial town centre investment plan?
People are always going to shop in supermarkets, so isn't it better to have one in the town centre and hopefully pull the customers into the town, rather than losing the business to out of town developments?
Re jamtim's comments above: The council has already provided a really well equipped gym in Barrhead Sports Centre on the Main Street, which now also has a cafe with healthy food options.
I'm tired of people criticising plans without bothering to research the detail of them. Does anybody seriously believe that Barrhead can do without this substantial town centre investment plan?
People are always going to shop in supermarkets, so isn't it better to have one in the town centre and hopefully pull the customers into the town, rather than losing the business to out of town developments?
Re jamtim's comments above: The council has already provided a really well equipped gym in Barrhead Sports Centre on the Main Street, which now also has a cafe with healthy food options.
Posted by: jamtim, scotland on 9:10pm Fri 25 Jan 08
[quote]Re jamtim's comments above: The council has already provided a really well equipped gym in Barrhead Sports Centre on the Main Street, which now also has a cafe with healthy food options.[/quote]
Dear Bob,
Yes, that is clearly enough. 1 public sports centre. 1 cafe. per 30,000 people.
cycle lanes. Additional small (cheap to use) gyms. Less fast-food restaurants not more. Car garages? Excellent, lets increase the casual road traffice into the town to look at cars on sale at the weekend... brilliant idea bob.
Supermarket in the centre, excellent. Don't undermine it with more fast-food joints. Give the town a unique profile....the cycle lane provision in scotland is an embarrassment. Perhaps create a park? There is... Cownpark... and then there is...
Bob, you need to resign from your council PR job and read up with current societal issues.
Re jamtim's comments above: The council has already provided a really well equipped gym in Barrhead Sports Centre on the Main Street, which now also has a cafe with healthy food options.
Dear Bob,
Yes, that is clearly enough. 1 public sports centre. 1 cafe. per 30,000 people.
cycle lanes. Additional small (cheap to use) gyms. Less fast-food restaurants not more. Car garages? Excellent, lets increase the casual road traffice into the town to look at cars on sale at the weekend... brilliant idea bob.
Supermarket in the centre, excellent. Don't undermine it with more fast-food joints. Give the town a unique profile....the cycle lane provision in scotland is an embarrassment. Perhaps create a park? There is... Cownpark... and then there is...
Bob, you need to resign from your council PR job and read up with current societal issues.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 9:55pm Fri 25 Jan 08
As a keen cyclist myself, I do agree, Its a nightmare trying to get from A to B ...
If the politicions are really serious about the greenhouse effect, then, why are they not creating more cycle lanes ???
You only have to look to Holland to see what a success it is ...
As a keen cyclist myself, I do agree, Its a nightmare trying to get from A to B ...
If the politicions are really serious about the greenhouse effect, then, why are they not creating more cycle lanes ???
You only have to look to Holland to see what a success it is ...
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 4:10pm Sat 26 Jan 08
Why, thank you, TMC.
And well done, Gavin Russell for putting your head above the parapet: I hope people take up your offer. More of our officials might consider using these spaces to get their message out (you needn't be drawn into a slanging match). It may be that the ET has done your plans a disservice but - from actually looking at your masterplan - it seems that the supermarket will be separated from Main Street by a "multi-deck" car park. It will turn its back on the Levern Water, which is one of the more interesting features and bring more through traffic along Main Street, already an unappealing throroughfare from a pedestrian perspective. I've nothing personally against Tesco (and the other supermarkets) but they don't want to share their trade or make it appealing for their car-borne shoppers to wander off elsewhere.
On the cycling issue, roor06, there is a project called Dams to Darnley which has aspirations for a pedestrian and cycle link from near Cowan Park (although I'm not sure it includes any commitment to funding in he near future). Once you're into Darnley there are some good, safe and direct routes into the centre but the section out of Barrhead into the outer reaches of the city is awful.
Why, thank you, TMC.
And well done, Gavin Russell for putting your head above the parapet: I hope people take up your offer. More of our officials might consider using these spaces to get their message out (you needn't be drawn into a slanging match). It may be that the ET has done your plans a disservice but - from actually looking at your masterplan - it seems that the supermarket will be separated from Main Street by a "multi-deck" car park. It will turn its back on the Levern Water, which is one of the more interesting features and bring more through traffic along Main Street, already an unappealing throroughfare from a pedestrian perspective. I've nothing personally against Tesco (and the other supermarkets) but they don't want to share their trade or make it appealing for their car-borne shoppers to wander off elsewhere.
On the cycling issue, roor06, there is a project called Dams to Darnley which has aspirations for a pedestrian and cycle link from near Cowan Park (although I'm not sure it includes any commitment to funding in he near future). Once you're into Darnley there are some good, safe and direct routes into the centre but the section out of Barrhead into the outer reaches of the city is awful.