Posted by: WeeNed, Glesga on 11:39am Thu 8 May 08
wee scunners gie them life in jail that'll show them and act as a detterent to others
wee scunners gie them life in jail that'll show them and act as a detterent to others
Posted by: hightower, glasgow on 1:18pm Thu 8 May 08
bet they get the jail for a bit of painting while the scumbags with knives get a slap on the wrist no probably a pat on the arse. where is they justice.
ps i dont agree with graffitti it is wrong in the wrong place but some cities have areas given over to it and it seems to work there.
anyway hang all neds
bet they get the jail for a bit of painting while the scumbags with knives get a slap on the wrist no probably a pat on the arse. where is they justice.
ps i dont agree with graffitti it is wrong in the wrong place but some cities have areas given over to it and it seems to work there.
anyway hang all neds
Posted by: old scroat, glasgow on 2:40pm Thu 8 May 08
Zero tolerance to the scum. Sentence them to 1 month painting railings around parks and other public places. Offer them places at Art Schools as payment under of course strict control. Any transgressions stick them in little rooms for a month with no cushy facilities/[italic]italic[/italic] [bold]bold[/bold]
Zero tolerance to the scum. Sentence them to 1 month painting railings around parks and other public places. Offer them places at Art Schools as payment under of course strict control. Any transgressions stick them in little rooms for a month with no cushy facilities/
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 2:47pm Thu 8 May 08
your right high tower, some of these graffitti artists are classed as neds as well as vandals. although some cities have graffitti all over does not mean glasgow has to follow suit, the cities that have beautiful sculptures in other places dont have their buildings painted in garish colours and folk come from all over to take photographs.by the way, maybe they want to be in jail to prove ....what?
your right high tower, some of these graffitti artists are classed as neds as well as vandals. although some cities have graffitti all over does not mean glasgow has to follow suit, the cities that have beautiful sculptures in other places dont have their buildings painted in garish colours and folk come from all over to take photographs.by the way, maybe they want to be in jail to prove ....what?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:09pm Thu 8 May 08
Graffitti is endemic, what is not is the way in which it is tackled accross the country.
Surely there must be a way to harness the artistic capabilities of these graffitti artists, and use them in a positive way.
Just as painting underpasses, merely creates a clean canvas for graffitti artists to work on, finding ways of avoiding prison for such forms of vandalism.
Alternatively, using community service to clean up graffitti, or ways and means to draw in the skills in some cases of some artists to benefit through community projects has to be better in the longer term.
The problem lies with those who are simply not militant, politically active or persuasive enough generally to see change happen.
When groups or unions become splintered, and communication breaks down within the police and other services is it any wonder the only option used is the soft option of prison.
Graffitti is endemic, what is not is the way in which it is tackled accross the country.
Surely there must be a way to harness the artistic capabilities of these graffitti artists, and use them in a positive way.
Just as painting underpasses, merely creates a clean canvas for graffitti artists to work on, finding ways of avoiding prison for such forms of vandalism.
Alternatively, using community service to clean up graffitti, or ways and means to draw in the skills in some cases of some artists to benefit through community projects has to be better in the longer term.
The problem lies with those who are simply not militant, politically active or persuasive enough generally to see change happen.
When groups or unions become splintered, and communication breaks down within the police and other services is it any wonder the only option used is the soft option of prison.
Posted by: hightower, glasgow on 8:06pm Thu 8 May 08
PP i agree. In the cities which have "graffiti areas" it is actually artwork and it seems (from what ive seen) that most of the folk stick to these places. We education and encouragement not endless criticism as people dont respond to that. Try to hepl folk (and if that doesnt work the give them 20 lashes.lol)
PP i agree. In the cities which have "graffiti areas" it is actually artwork and it seems (from what ive seen) that most of the folk stick to these places. We education and encouragement not endless criticism as people dont respond to that. Try to hepl folk (and if that doesnt work the give them 20 lashes.lol)
Posted by: GOMEZ, BURGH on 5:11pm Fri 9 May 08
they dont have to take the trains out of service
its their own choice and its a bit of bloddy paint!
get a grip of your lives eh!
they dont have to take the trains out of service
its their own choice and its a bit of bloddy paint!
get a grip of your lives eh!
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:41pm Fri 9 May 08
no get a grip of the scrubbing brushes, the bpt,said the trains have to be taken out to have them cleaned.....he is the bloody boss, gomez, i was on the website for the btpolice and seemingly the 'graffitti is not only in glasgow its in england and wales as well as scotland stretching as far as europe, its only youths who are against society, seemingly they have to be questioned by phsycologists to find out if they have brain damage,whatever the findings it will be on their medical forever....very sad.
no get a grip of the scrubbing brushes, the bpt,said the trains have to be taken out to have them cleaned.....he is the bloody boss, gomez, i was on the website for the btpolice and seemingly the 'graffitti is not only in glasgow its in england and wales as well as scotland stretching as far as europe, its only youths who are against society, seemingly they have to be questioned by phsycologists to find out if they have brain damage,whatever the findings it will be on their medical forever....very sad.
Posted by: Betty Uttley, California on 9:07pm Fri 9 May 08
May I say that it is here in California, they are really not artists, we are now in the throws of gang slogans being painted on the walls.
I put up a $7000.00 wall, and guess what, the very next day we had gang slogans painted on it, and I do not live in a gang area, (they were just visiting the valley).
Their mothers also tell us that they left Los Angeles to get "their boys" away from the gangs, the only problem is that they brought the gangs with them!!!!!
May I say that it is here in California, they are really not artists, we are now in the throws of gang slogans being painted on the walls.
I put up a $7000.00 wall, and guess what, the very next day we had gang slogans painted on it, and I do not live in a gang area, (they were just visiting the valley).
Their mothers also tell us that they left Los Angeles to get "their boys" away from the gangs, the only problem is that they brought the gangs with them!!!!!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:47pm Fri 9 May 08
Betty, maybe this is proof that some people have closer ties to their animal instincts than they'ed like to admit to.
Forming packs, gangs, or groups with a dominant male is classic animalistic behaviour.
Maybe we should be finding sports and other ways to allow for "gangs" of kids to hang out, with their own space, if we're going to build Community Centres, youth centres (etc) we need to have the input of the kids, and gang members who could change their ways if they are allowed to have an input in designing their own community - youth centre.
We're just not forwards thinking enough to allow for this idea to be the key to cutting gang cultures, and crime associated with them being let loose on our streets.
Graffitti needen't all be a bad thing, but - finding ways to curtail it, and use it to communities advantage is just one of the keys.
Betty, maybe this is proof that some people have closer ties to their animal instincts than they'ed like to admit to.
Forming packs, gangs, or groups with a dominant male is classic animalistic behaviour.
Maybe we should be finding sports and other ways to allow for "gangs" of kids to hang out, with their own space, if we're going to build Community Centres, youth centres (etc) we need to have the input of the kids, and gang members who could change their ways if they are allowed to have an input in designing their own community - youth centre.
We're just not forwards thinking enough to allow for this idea to be the key to cutting gang cultures, and crime associated with them being let loose on our streets.
Graffitti needen't all be a bad thing, but - finding ways to curtail it, and use it to communities advantage is just one of the keys.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 9:51pm Fri 9 May 08
the police have sussed out all the 'tags' for the gangs both here and over in north america, the dopey drug dealers will be talking on their phone to a drug officer then ,,,bingo ,they are gone for 12 or more years, all this just for a few gold chains HAHA..not worth it.
the police have sussed out all the 'tags' for the gangs both here and over in north america, the dopey drug dealers will be talking on their phone to a drug officer then ,,,bingo ,they are gone for 12 or more years, all this just for a few gold chains HAHA..not worth it.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 6:10pm Sun 11 May 08
yes, people power. i am in agreeance there, the young people should be doing constructive things instead of destructive, mind you when you see all the young facilities around like swimming, football, tennis and bike riding, there should be no room for this disruptive behaviour, i personaly think the druggies who use the young ones to help sell the crap, should donate their 'poison money' to building childrens hospitals....where some of the sick kids end up with drug induced illnesses either by themselves or by their parents who actually condone drug use, oh and maybe buy ambulances and homes for the homeless, who would not be homeless if it was not for the dope head cartels.
yes, people power. i am in agreeance there, the young people should be doing constructive things instead of destructive, mind you when you see all the young facilities around like swimming, football, tennis and bike riding, there should be no room for this disruptive behaviour, i personaly think the druggies who use the young ones to help sell the crap, should donate their 'poison money' to building childrens hospitals....where some of the sick kids end up with drug induced illnesses either by themselves or by their parents who actually condone drug use, oh and maybe buy ambulances and homes for the homeless, who would not be homeless if it was not for the dope head cartels.
Posted by: John Hamilton, Pacific Quay on 10:43am Mon 12 May 08
Grafitti is vandalism and very very ugly, zero tolerance is the only way to deal with the scumbags doing it.
Some of the worst affected places in the world are Italian cities. There is nothing more depressing than being in beautiful Rome Naples or Florence and seeing disgusting scrawls left by morons all over the lovely buildings and monuments, underground trains and overground stations.
The Italian authorities seem to have given up trying to deal with it. New York was similar until it brought in zero tolerance, subway trains there are spotless now.
Time for absolute zero tolerance!!
Grafitti is vandalism and very very ugly, zero tolerance is the only way to deal with the scumbags doing it.
Some of the worst affected places in the world are Italian cities. There is nothing more depressing than being in beautiful Rome Naples or Florence and seeing disgusting scrawls left by morons all over the lovely buildings and monuments, underground trains and overground stations.
The Italian authorities seem to have given up trying to deal with it. New York was similar until it brought in zero tolerance, subway trains there are spotless now.
Time for absolute zero tolerance!!
Posted by: kaiser_soze, sealand on 5:14pm Sun 8 Jun 08
By john's logic, we should also tear down the high rise flats that plague Glasgow's skyline and arrest the architects and rip down those hideous billboards because i don't want to have to look at them either and while we're at it jim coleman's criminal moustache should be removed too. New York has zero tolerance, and a prison system on the brink of collapse to boot. zero tolerance doesn't deter graffiti, New York is still the most vandalised city in the world, graffiti writers just moved out of the subways and onto the streets. zero tolerance merely deteriorates the quality of the graffiti.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder; I'd still rather see some nasty colourful tags that I can try and decypher than a nasty looking plain brick wall
By john's logic, we should also tear down the high rise flats that plague Glasgow's skyline and arrest the architects and rip down those hideous billboards because i don't want to have to look at them either and while we're at it jim coleman's criminal moustache should be removed too. New York has zero tolerance, and a prison system on the brink of collapse to boot. zero tolerance doesn't deter graffiti, New York is still the most vandalised city in the world, graffiti writers just moved out of the subways and onto the streets. zero tolerance merely deteriorates the quality of the graffiti.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder; I'd still rather see some nasty colourful tags that I can try and decypher than a nasty looking plain brick wall
Posted by: tomd, london on 4:33pm Sat 12 Jul 08
The world is full of ugliness and hate, graffiti is only an insignificant problem in the world. Everyone has to have their own form of self-expression and graffiti is one of these, without a creative outlet many people become insane or suicidal. People who hate graffiti will be quick to shout out against graffiti but wear clothes which support child labour and injustice. get a life.
The world is full of ugliness and hate, graffiti is only an insignificant problem in the world. Everyone has to have their own form of self-expression and graffiti is one of these, without a creative outlet many people become insane or suicidal. People who hate graffiti will be quick to shout out against graffiti but wear clothes which support child labour and injustice. get a life.
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